OK RObert you are quite right.
I am not farming for good thoughts about me, this is the real me.
Do fall often, for a hard luck story.
But wiling to do it over and again if it can help.
jinny can not be helped, I would bend heaven and earth if I could help.
You RObert have a balance and understanding of matters with children, single parenting and indeed parenting, I have seen it over and again.
We clash some times but let me say this,my reason for adopting the under dog may be time wasting, but.
I have done so all my life, it costs me, but it rewarded me too, the respect of my former union mates,the understanding I do care.
It rewards me more than gold, I can never walk away without trying, we all should try then try again.
jinny I must leave you , you know I have heard another side off you but your last two posts say it all,OLO one day will be better without you.

IMHO, Belly can go to some homeless shelter or other places in his community to help since he so likes to. He should also tried harder to become moderator so he can kick me outta here. He sure misses his best buddy here tho :p n he likes to waste water.LOL

Like I said, I'm more stubborn n irritating then u r. I'm already working/hv worked with more then 10 different depts/orgs here. I'm going to try another few. Come on, u think I'm not resourceful? Shhesh underestimating me.

Oh, actually, manglish is my first language, it so much fun as it contains 3 diff language mixed into one(I think I stated this somewhere before). "KIASU"

jinny,

I wasn't judging you. How do you come up with that?

You had asked about personal issues:

" ...it still hasn't been said what personal matters can't be discussed and what not. Isn't everything personal?"

Robert has further claried that.

We are 'supposed' to be objective and logical in a discussion. This means putting aside subjective reactions ... admittedly not always easy ... some buttons can be pushed with the best of us. That is when Graham steps in ... to move us from the subjective/personal (often too personal) back on track.

For example. A sex worker could raise an issue she/he had experienced. This would lead into a wider discussion of root causes ... conditions/laws/ etc. whatever.

The experience of the sex worker then becomes an example, a spring board if you like, for looking at issues within the sex industry. These issues are, hopefully, discussed dispassionately and objectively. As a rule, this does not return to the personal, unless something needs further clarifying.

If I have not been very clear, perhaps Robert could assist ...

hi Daniell,

if you read my last post addressed to you here on this thread, i think i explained myself pretty clearly. just a few examples tho, to help you understand the way i look at it.

not coming from me:

"OLO one day will be better without you."(repetitive? i'm only blind when i'm making a wish tq)

"but self-consciously trying to be different and being rude to others are certainly not among them."(sorry it seems this way. i am sorta trying to defend myself here)

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=4109&page=0 (numerous here)

and the first thread, the amount of speculations was undeniably short of amazing there. it's human nature to tho. can't just let sleeping dogs lie and like to relate personal circumstances to that of only their knowledge. anyway, i'm practicing my 'not-to-complain' here, which obviously still needs brushing up. i need to get ready for my date with Mr.Oman(as soon as i hv the time. i need a twin!!)

there isn't much point living in the past. we learn from our mistakes, and move on from there. i'm still paying for the mistakes no doubt, but hey, today's a new beginning :)

btw, it wasn't meaning so much so you, just a few posters here. anyway, my psychiatrist yesterday morning said there are some 'mentally not 100%' people here:P, this came from him, not me. hahaha. i'm certified NOT crazy.. unfortunately for some of yous..LOL

I am able to defend myself.
Am not mining for help or support.
And truly enjoyed some input.
Years ago I took part in the second thread car park.
Went back and read the first too.
I think it is a wast of time to pursue this any more.
But may be such a thread is sometimes needed.
I will continue to read this ,try hard not to contribute, but still hold the view, honestly OLO should come first.
And am unable to see jinny still here in 6 months with her current attitude,

attitude you say? sigh. i feel sorry for you. too bad u can't stand my virtual guts. :p

i do agree that there is still a lot more to learn from here, not sure if i will finish within 6 months, n if i can put up wit you Belly, i think i can put up with quite a bit, unless GY decides otherwise.:P