Specifically Rudy I was referring to the toxic chemical in the link below

http://www.smh.com.au/environment/australia-joins-other-countries-in-banning-endosulfan-20101012-16ht7.html

I read your links and thank you for that information. It sounds that the scientist concerned in the animal study has an advocacy slant rather than conclusive evidence and as I have explained these explanations are more interpretive than factual. Any other studies.

I commenced this discussion to suggest that advocacy of Gay causes is overly fashionable
these days and over represented in the media and I wonder how this is of benefit to the vast majority of children in the world.
Hungry or needy children for example just wouldn't have the time to consider their sexual preferences at 10. Although they may have to endure the predatory behaviour of another's orientation to survive.

I don't think questioning one's sexual orientation has a lot to do with growing up at all or even has a place in growing up. We all in fact grow up when the time arrives and we do this through physiology without any helpful suggestions or advocacy from interest groups or others. All in our own good time.

Because of this simple truth I am inclined to believe that a percentage of people choosing gay lifestyles have indeed learnt this behaviour. Physiology itself determines that humans cannot procreate through same sex contact and hence this is natures primary primordial reason for humans being attracted to the opposite sex.

It's not necessary to advocate, mythologise, advertise or promote etc it just happens for obvious reasons.

Good-by. You can have your little site back.

There you go...Pat pat pat.

Now you can rule/bullsh@t all you like the customer you are. smile.

Well done.

TT

Runner
"Those that argue that some are born as homosexuals are left with the dilemma that some are also born with a bent towards kids. You can't argue one without the other. Then again secularism is full of hypocritical holes."

Pedophiles are born with this..they are sexually attracted toward children and can't help it
Just like gays are sexually attracted to the same sex and can't help it. The notion of attraction to the opposite sex is like the notion of you being attracted to the same sex..impossible right.

The difference being pedophiles want to have SEX with CHILDREN.
Gays want other CONSENTING ADULTS.

thinker2

A percentage may be gay because of their upbringing...but only a percentage.

Homosexuality is practised very frequently in the animal kingdom incl many apes cats (lions) and other group animals. So much so that homosexuality in the animal kingdom is far more common than monogamy.

Should we declare monogamous relationships as unnatural?

Thank you for acknowledging the probability of learn't of taught behaviour amongst the Gay Community Nicnoto.

And Sm the Myth I'm referring too is the Myth that animal behaviour has anything to do with sexual preference. And it may even be a fact that monogamy is uncommon in the animal kingdom because they are animals.

If monogamy has anything to do cognisant or higher concepts such as love, loyalty and devotion then you would have to know just how much these lions and apes love each other to be able to accurately determine just how much their sexual preference has anything to do with their animal behaviour.

It's preposterous as a proposition. My own male dog (not desexed) is always ready for sex
and if the odour of a female dog in season were applied too a box of tissues,
my dog would most likely attempt to inseminate that box of tissues.
Could this be interpreted as my dog having a preference for boxes of tissues?.
I don't think so.

And should the behaviour of lions and pygmy monkeys be used as a suitability model for human behaviour?. Why?. Couldn't we just continue to make decisions as the dominant species for ourselves?. Without influence, advocacy or mythology, about the gravitas or importance of any over represented interest group.

Finally why not accept sexual freedom?. Once again as a civil libertarian I think that it is important that "the small freedoms", such as sexual freedom be placed in context and understood, whilst "the big freedoms" such as the freedom to have free or independent thought are stifled and rapidly disappearing with hardly anyone seeming to notice or care at all.

"Couldn't we just continue to make decisions as the dominant species for ourselves?. Without influence, advocacy or mythology, about the gravitas or importance of any over represented interest group."

Indeed.

Finally something I can agree with.