When people become really stressed they have three options to choose from. They can fight that which is causing them stress or they can flight(run away) from the stress. When an animal(human is animal also) can't do one of those two things, we all do a third, we become unconscious or we just do nothing. I feel many of us are at this stage now or entering this stage. We can see it's all out of our control so we can't fight it, we also see that the rest of the world is pretty much the same, so we cant flight it, the next step is to do nothing. Just as a child does when confronted with similar feelings when told they cant have those lollies in the supermarket isle. First they protest a little(fight it), then they run off in disgust(flight it), then when they realise they can't have their way and cant get away because their mother has restrained them what do they do next? They Drop to the floor and won't move, they become unconscious and do nothing.

I also think this is why many countries are experiencing similar to us at present in regard to choosing their leaders. Even one of our own came forward and said vote nobody (vote unconscious) and many did resulting in a hung parliament.

There's a guy by the name of Ian Xel Lungold who has done an in depth talk on video about all of this and how it relates to the Mayan calendar , well worth watching.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Me-IkwfAGgg&feature

I don't agree with everything he says, and some things can be way out there. But if you listen to what he says and follow your own intuition(instincts) I think you'll agree, he pretty much hits the nail right on the head!

Interesting topic, have fun :)

Thanks for your opinion RawMustard, I am sad to see you think there is no hope for change. If everyone thought like you, there wouldn't be any leaders, role model, etc. I will definitely watch your video.. make full use of time always. Sleep and boredom can wait for the grave I always say.

There are already so many out there that are trying to make a difference. The ones that are aware and are passionate about saving the environment, the animals, the people.. different groups, working towards the same things... trying to make it better. How many have dedicated their lives saving others? That doctor that went to East Timor to help correct eye-sights? How much difference has he made in this world? I recently met someone who is helping with the logistics of getting all the medical equipment over there. There is always hope. If you want to believe in it. We work on change because we hope we can make a difference.

I studied the Mayan Calender a little, it seems to be 100% accurate for the little research I did(was taking too much of my time so switched). Still.. if the Mayans were right, isn't the world going to end in 2012? Sorry, I'm too passive to believe that. It is proven with different civilization(the Egyptians, the Romans, the Mayans). It's their believes that resulted in all the 'hard-to believe' things happening. How some of them managed to harvest energy naturally..

Our planet started out with water and earth, reaction with the sun's energy created the first cell. Can you explain how humans can go into meditation for months- years.. without intake of water of food. They manage to train their body to absorb the life energy from their surroundings. Medical researchers(being the disbelieving people they are) want to prove that it is not possible?

Jinny you are quite right;

Sadly over the past couple of decades our lives have become more weighed upon by responsibilities and obligations and higher demands, despite the technology to make it simpler;

Why?

Simple- because we allow the people with a say to raise their demands of us with every technological leap (or even without it), and we are also a unique country in that instead of being either paying premium rates for premium rigorous management by competent hard-working administrators of society on our behalf, or low rates and picking up the slack for keeping the gears in society turning ourselves; we pay premium rates for our administrators and governors to sit on their arses all day, and must pay yet more to actually keep things running- thus we are forced to work more to meet financial ends for what we assume as a minimal operational standard to live in this society.

The only ways around it are for more people to re-evaluate how they will live, or for more people to be FAR more politically aware than they are now, and demand either better governance or more direct democracy.

""" I am sad to see you think there is no hope for change. """

On the contrary Jinny. I'm sorry if that's how I articulated my thoughts but it's not what I was trying to say.

In our evolutionary progression it will be the next phase where most people will deny the injustices perpetuated on them by our corrupt rulers, just as they did all those thousands of years ago when the roman empire fell.

When we all stop and do nothing, the beast dies because we stop feeding it and humanity will transform into another phase in our evolution, it will be for the better!

Perhaps it all depends on what type of people you associate with or how you're placed in our societal structure whether you see the writing on the wall or not. But now that we have obtained our global consciousness via the advent of real time global communications. We plebs are telling each other how to stop the beast, our numbers are far greater than those at the top who are fighting tooth and nail to maintain their power structure, we will win in the end! More and more are beginning to see this.

Ok RawMustard, let's say we win. Then what?

interesting topic jinny

you refer
to a thing...we call de-ja-vu

[the feeling of good/bad
going to happen next]

i have had that a few times
but more wrong than right

modern life..gives us too many options
this causes stress
should i buy the big one or the little one
with extra calcium
or the one with the tick

ooops no i should buy australian
hang-on that one is half price
should i go on the net
or read my book
or finnish my homework

did i miss mums birthday

life is now more complicated

in the old days we built a hut
[or often lived in our parents hut]
not work for 15 hours to pay rent
10 hours for water/electicity food

15 hours for the taxman

in the old days
hunter/gathering took about 24 hours
up to 4 hours a day at most

now with globalisation
were working for days just to get the latest mobile phone
and pay the phone bill

anyhow..that must be about my 350/words
cheers