Well belly, I will say congratulations on your teams victory, however, it must be a hollow victory indeed, as at least four of their trys should not have been allowed.

Try 1, the winger was out on the play before but got away with it.

Another try was after a deliberate push in the back from a saints player, that should have been a penalty, instead, it was a drop out for the roosters.

Another was given even though he clearly lost control of the ball and another whereby an attacking player was beside the one playing the ball, a move aimed at distracting the opposing defence.

So enjoy your hollow victory mate.

Now as for this thread, opinions are opinions and we are all entitled to them, however, laws are also laws and indonesia is simply implementing one of theirs.

Now you can object to it, that's your right, however, you can not go about telling them what is right or wrong.

And, the message is 'loud and clear' do not do drugs in indonesia.

AH The last resort rechtub, our game is in trouble two of my teams trys are clearly not trys.
One of two of the other teams was not, several penalty's got it wrong.
Hollow victory? take the wrongs out my team wins, you can not hide your failure to under and the game in fluff.
Now Gentlemen, KH and my mate rechtub, let us together look at this thread from another angle.
The Bali Nine, why then are only 3 sentenced to death?
Consider this, if you think Rush should die do you think the rest got of lightly?

Well belly, I can't answer your question as I simply don't know the facts of the others. Perhaps you can assist.

Were the other six caught with drugs?

If so, was the content of drugs sufficient to warrant the death penalty?

Now what I do know is that SR was caught, at the airport, ready to board a plan, bound for Australia with an amount of drugs strapped to his body, sufficient to attract the DP.

Indonesian law states that if one is caught in possession of drugs, in excess of 'X' then they face the DP if convicted. I also understand there are signs at the airports stating this.

I also feel you are misunderstanding me.

I do not wish to see SR sentenced to death any more than you do, however, Indonesian law is in plain black and white and they are in my view entitled to act on it.

He chose to do drugs in a country that is determined to eradicate drugs dealers and traffickers and, he got caught.

On the contrary, if he is executed and his death deters even a few people from importing drugs to Aus, then that in its self will save many more 'innocent' lives than the 'guilty' one that is lost.

BTW, the saints were the better side on the day, no doubt about that.

As far as I'm aware all 9 members had a roughly similar amount of heroin strapped to their bodies, so I find it odd that over half were spared the DP.

I actually imagine the judge randomly spared most of them for publicity purposes.
Personally if the Indonesian Law states Death for possession of X+ heroin, then getting a lesser sentence for an Australian sends the wrong message;
If it said 20 years jail for smuggling, death for planning the operation, THEN they (including Rush) should all get 20 years jail, and the two planners singled out).

Fair enough KH and I'm glad to know that you would support a more civilised world.

It's the extremes and repressive nature of the military regime and their so called elected
partners in Indonesia that I can not abide.
This country is a product of American meddling and manipulation.
One just has to go back to the assassination of Sukarno and the insertion of the corrupt Suharto
to remember that this country wouldn't know what was justice was in any circumstance. Just ask the Timorese.

I think the world could do with less prohibitions and less repressive regimes.
And less American thinking and corrupt manipulation. e.g. Israel/ Palestine
Instead giving Indonesia encouragement by pretending they have legitimacy.
They should be taken to task over their barbarism.

Not one asylum seeker would want to leave a war zone created by the U.S.
to live in a country like Indonesia would they?.

Why pat them on the back or co-operate with them. I am also very concerned about joint military ops with Indonesia.
No one else in the region can trust them. Why should we. Are we scared of them?.

One thing for sure, (and not to single out you KH) lots of us have irrational fears about
recreational drugs but we seem fine with corruption,propaganda, uncivilised executions, injustice,
military dictatorships, repression etc, claiming the end justifies the means.

"It is about who we are and what sort of world we wan"t.
As I have stated from the start of this post.
They schedule to execute Rush, so they can extract bowing and scraping from him
and still enjoy the execution if they want. No one wants to live in that country.
It's appalling and beneath dignity.

rechtub Scott Rushes parents, unhappy and unsure about how he got the money to go to Bali, concerned he may be doing something wrong informed our federal police.
They informed the Indonesian police.
Scott and most of the nine had drugs strapped to their body's.
Others, including I think but am not sure the ring leaders got arrested in their hotel room.
Carrying brief cases that tested positive to the drug.
3 both ring leaders and Rush are still on death row.
It seems a chance Rush may be pardoned, well let live out a sentence of life, but the other two, not a happy future I am afraid.