Interesting Post Belly but more than that, the question is really about "who we are".
It's also about how much we value human life.

Personally I'm opposed to the death penalty so therefore executing anybody (in my view) is a act of barbarism and should not happen.

Pat the Bogan doesn't seem as much a bogan after reading his post, but Banlo displays true bogan characteristics. King Hazza makes a good point about international relations and manages to be a bogan at the same time.

In this case the AFP hand balled information supplied by Scott Rush's parents to indonesia knowing that this may result in Scott Rush's execution among others.

If you are comfortable with this as an Australian "and I am not", then the AFP's actions were not in the best interest's of anyone's son's or daughter's in this country.

Regardless of whether or not you agree with Indonesia's unsuitable legal practices or penal system (as described by think than move) (and I don't),
it is fundamentally the job of the AFP to preserve "our way of life", "protect our citizens best interests", not Indonesia's.

The AFP now says, that they could not have known that the information they passed on would have resulted in such penalty's. This cannot be true.
It is out of their indebtedness / obligation to Scott Rush's parents, that we now see them making plea's for Rush's clemency.

This is of course "a far more Australian thing they do now, than they did in the first place".
I fear it will prove "to much, far to late for Rush and his cohorts".

If Rush is executed then it would be very difficult for Scot's parents to love their country.

A piece of traditional vernacular Australian poetry if I may( Author unknown)

Australia, Australia,
The land of the daffodil and dahlia
If ya land in jail, I'll bail ya
Australia.
Two arms , two hands,
Two steely bands
With a sprig of wattle in me hand
Australia.

runner please you had no need to introduce politics to this thread please refrain from doing it.
I too do not want the death penalty and first wish to explain the case as I think it took place
Scott appears to be a first timer, I am not sure of that.
The leaders and at least the woman had done it before.
Scots parents found out and informed on him.
Federal police informed Indonesia.
All got arrested.
After the federal policeman gave evidence Scott was only a courier last week the prosecution still called for the death penalty.
Scott may not live long enough to see the wrong end of those dim Sims.
The ring leaders are likely to die.
I think we can and should give our own justice.
We should have minimum sentences harsh ones take all property to pay prison costs, but never murder
more to come.

That poem was quoted to me by an old and good friend, known only to me as Oz.
He would quote it when the s--t, so to speak, had hit the fan in some way.

Let us all be honest.
Let us look at the issue.
Know the feeling you got first time your kid came home from school with blood on his/her face?
How you wanted to storm around and take to his/her attackers parents?
Now how you defended him/her when it was the other way around?
NOT MY CHILD! not me mate!
Some place right now mums and dads sit waiting to hear how Scott and his mates are going.
We can punish crime, any crime without murder.
We, yes some of you here now will cringe at storys about China harvesting organs from those it kills.
Claim we are different.
Think about this,the woman team member has done it before yet has 20 years Scott may die.
We love our loved ones and forgive almost anything, we defend them against all comers but call for other to die?
You my mate rechtub can not help your thoughts and ways its hard wired into you to be hard but smile more often think deeply about life, any of us make mistakes and death is forever.
I hurt still at a criminal in my family but while wanting no contact would stop at death unless an other victim came for wards, castration then answers exist other than murder.

I feel for the parents of this situation, and also with the likes of sharpell corby and the Bali crew. Play with fire! and you will get burned. See its hard when being young with so many temptations with making a fast buck with drugs. Belly is quite right to a point, but I believe in the death penalty on the basis of an eye for an eye and life for a life. Only murders falls right in that bracket.
See you cant screw with third world counties, and as pat the bogan and think 2 lightly pointed out, one must conduct one's self with-in the boundaries of worlds (we see as in this case) not understood.

The series Banged-up-aboard shows clearly what can happen in a heart beat

If he is executed on the grounds of that law in other lands, most times very little can be done. They also have their drug problems.

I believe the second chance card must be played in order of the western worlds laws and punishments, and not the death. We maybe too relaxed with our own laws and practices, hence the young not seeing the out-comes, of their silly misjudgments.

Bring him home!cause if you leave him there, and others make the same mistakes, death will be better than doing a life term. The policy for this type of crime should be handed back to there place of origin, and be dealt with the laws that the individual is accustom to.

Killing him will show no faith between the counties.

If one kills one of ours, then if we catch one of them, the same should apply.

TT

Should Scott Rush die?

No. Absolutely not.