Belly,

Sleeping your way to the top was runner. If you want to slag me off, at least get your facts straight.

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=3834

As far as the 2pp, it is a mechanism to avoid a side effect of the Westminster system where two similar candidates can be pipped at the post by a third very different who wins the seat where if one of the other two weren't standing, he would lose.

However, it is a blunt instrument as the majority of 2pp are assigned by the parties and may not actually reflect the will of the voter. To this extent the AEC actually refuses to include the 2pp figures where independents win.

In short it has a significant margin of error.

If the 2pp was 52% to 48% the difference would be sufficient to overcome the margin of error, at 0.1% it is completely meaningless, especially when 5% of the vote was excluded.

If JG and her spin doctors don't try this on, it should indicate to you that is has no basis.

Shadow Minister, it is not a poll of a couple thousand people representing the population in general. . It is how over 90% voted. I do not see much room for a margin of error, is it about time that the outcome of Labor gaining government be accepted. Mr. Abbott is Opposition Leader. He is not PM in waiting. The way the Greens and Independents decide to align their votes means that there is no way for the Coalition to lead.

Shadow Minister I have no need to slag you off you do it better than I can.
I have considered why your posts and for that matter runners get to see daylight here without title changes .
But think after all they should not be censored.
truth bloke I am a bit stunned by your constant bitterness.
And think you need to review your attitude.
The seeds of my posting future have been planted in the last two weeks.
I try to be fair but think you do not.
I think you will never have the grace to back up so I will do it.
I love OLO, maybe I have got it wrong but I am a stubborn man, in my view you got too much support.
And I think soon I will leave it to you any advice on other forums would be greatly received none will be this good but maybe rebutting such as you will not meet with criticism.
Help me avoid you do not please address you posts to me, know bloke I maintain until death my right to be different than you with pride.

Belly,

I keep strictly within the requirements for posting and in addition I try to publish the truth, all be it with my personal spin. There is nothing that you accuse me of that you are not guilty of either, and there is more than a little bias in your posts, and neither have you seldom missed a chance to put in the knife.

After the debacle of the last few years federally and the last decade in NSW, I am convinced that as it stands a Labor government is not in the nation's interest. I am angry that through two self serving independents, Labor managed to squeeze in.

I am not a member of any party, and whilst an avid Liberal supporter, do not agree with all their policies. I do, however, think strategically, and my predictions are based on what I can see is in the interests of the parties and individuals concerned, and in most cases self interest wins through. With RO and TW, I completely called it wrong, as I assumed that keeping one's electorate happy would have been the first priority. But what I missed was the opportunity to hold the balance of power with Labor that would not have been so easy with the liberals.

I do feel that TW and especially RO miscalculated the reaction from the liberals and are unprepared for what is headed their way.

A minority government that succeeds generally becomes a majority government at the next election. If it fails it becomes the opposition. TA would be remiss to grant JG any leeway.