Flo, Jockey yes indeed.
Remember Rudd's high standing see his down fall.
Abbott is in self destruct mode he just can not keep the false face up.
His real self, the one we waited for during the election will find him out.
Conservatives are split, never forget one vote took Turnbull out.
Time has made Turnbull look statesman like compared to Abbott's inner circle.
Shadow list the titles of your last 20 threads.
Find that number of mine so unbalanced and bitter.
I rest my case.
Turnbull to return and the vote on climate change will split the opposition ,be won on the floor of both houses and may lead to Turnbulls return.

I am not so sure that Mr. Turnbull will not do the smae on NBN as he did on climate change.

Jockey, it ill-behoves anyone to accuse someone else of being untruthful when you can't admit to your own error. The LNP is part of the Liberal Party, so you need to add their votes together, despite their somewhat odd position on what their elected members can do.

It's also not correct to add the Greens vote to the Labor Party and claim some sort of majority and ignore all the other minor parties (the Greens are a minor party). You have to take them all into consideration which is what the two-party preferred vote is about.

Now, can everyone stick to the arguments and leave accusations against others' characters alone.

Facts regarding the primary vote.

Fact: LNP = 9.12%

Fact: Greens = 11.76%

Fact: Labor = 37.99%

Fact: Liberal = 30.46%

Fact: Nationals = 3.73%

Fact: Country Liberals = 0.31%

Fact: Labor + Greens = 49.75%

Fact: Libs + LNP + Nats + Country Libs = 43.62%

Fact: % of voters who did NOT vote for Libs/LNP/Nats/C.Libs = 56.38%

Facts regarding 2 party preferred vote:

Labor = 50.12%

Coalition = 49.88%

Election result.

Fact: Labor = WON

Fact: Coalition = LOST

Therefore, the "facts" speak for themselves!

Fact,

Voters who did not vote for Labor - 62.01%

Last News poll Voters who would not vote for Labor now 66%

2 PP prefered is the only messure worth noting, if you look at seats you must count coalition vs Labors coalition.
The targetting of posters is not one sided.
SM by far contribute more to confrontation than any one.
LABOR did not win the election it lost.
But it won the suport of more than conservatives surely that is true?
Is this country to become a battle ground after every election.
SM fish in your dry dam but this fish will not bite you are getting frantic.