*Given that already there are signs that the NBN costing is going to blow out, and the mining tax is only going to deliver a fraction of what treasury estimated*

SM, so what was the 75k$ for having a baby going to cost? What
would we get in return?

If they sink some cables in the ground, at least we have something
of lasting value, for the spectrum of mobile cannnot cope with all
the potential traffic.

Just a few years of Tony's baby buy, will just about pay for the
frigging thing.

As to the mining tax, I don't have a problem with the one negotiated
between the leading miners and Gillard. Its a compromise and its
a win-win. Its not going to hold up mining, people will benefit
from royalties, its within the budget of the big miners. Kloppers
is no fool. He would not agree to anything silly. The real problem
was the original mining tax and Swan's spin. The whole thing was
draconian.

Bazz 128 klm away from our second biggest city you can only get dial up, or satellite.
I had dial up, 300 houses in nearby villages had no connection for a week after rain.
New cables went past us 15 years ago.
NBN may not make it here ever.
Hills say radio is not a give me, mobiles in some places here work like boat anchors.
NBN will not cost that much but be so very much better.
I am not remote but so many are ,measure the benefits of this by not what you have but what others do not have.
Truth is this ragbag mob would use mother hood as a tool for confrontation.

Abbott today said after hearing Gillards new cabinet these words
<she has rewarded those who deposed Rudd>
Now tell me, gotta laugh haven't you?
Who rewarded Abbott's supporters when he deposed Turnbull?
Tony what is the difference?
And you have no roll to play in who leads our coalition keep yours together.

Already in the NBN business plan, there is a requirement that the government "gift" $27bn of the $43bn cost of the NBN installation to the NBN company, otherwise the NBN company could never even pretend to be financially viable.

With the already looming shortage of people to do the work, the government is looking at having to find up to 20 000 skilled technicians to do the work. As happened with the BER this pushed costs to double the rates they should have been. How does a $40bn blow out sound?

Or are we simply going to ship in cheap labour from overseas?

I ask every OLO poster who has an interest in politics and this country to note this day.
Note Shadow Ministers posts in this thread too.
They are the very shadow of Liberal policy.
Lets be honest my party got a smacking, it earned it.
Gutless fear to take on Rudd.
Back down on ETS
Last minute change of leadership.
The leaks, be assured the leaks spoke the truth,I am not alone in not trusting Gillard Crean, than former minister from the Hunter,they are left overs from Lathams train wreck.
Yet Gillard will reform and govern well, before falling one day to the same faults that got Rudd.
Of far more importance is the policy we saw get Abbott within a breath of victory, lies and fear.
Like frightened rabbits some fled the ALP without looking at the place they ran to.
Australia SM did not put your party in, you no one else in threads you started claim two party preferred was won by you, no and you know it
You defame the Labor coalition yet know your coalition did not win as many seats.
Here now I say substance not lies honesty not fear Abbott must be fair and balanced in past elections time lets some forget past fear and lies not this time.
We will get an NBN we will love it, you trawl for half truths anything to throw like mud at the ALP it is failing bloke.
Remember this day will we look back at it as the start of the uncovering of the very nature of this empty shell of an opposition, I think yes.

Awwww, come on Belly, you have to admit their project management leaves
a lot to be desired.
They had better have learnt something from the Pink Bats and the other disasters to avoid the same in the NBN.

The NBN is a Rolls Royce solution, but hopefully not a gold plated Rolls Royce.

Julia Gillard couldn't even make a decent job of losing the election !