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The Forum > General Discussion > The way forward for the Coalition is confrontation not co operation.

The way forward for the Coalition is confrontation not co operation.

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petej the 2 party preferred is the measure we should stick to.
But you travel in deep waters, our Hasbeen is a one eyed conservative.
Ever ready to fabricate a story and rebut the truth.
Not unlike Shadow Minister.
SM your team, not me first bought up the rainbow coalition slur.
It is no less so than yours is, sure the Nats Gutless follow your mob every time but Katter will not and the reborn WA Nat may not.
Now you started threads gloating about your party's two party lead, it has been a fraud for 7 days straight, ALP is in front.
Congrats however for the three wise monkeys view of reality and truth not unexpected you built your whole campaign on a rubbish tip.
Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 15 September 2010 5:47:39 AM
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Petej,

The liberal party has various branches including the LNP in Queensland etc, and the national party. Lets see if the Brainiac can add them up.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Wednesday, 15 September 2010 5:49:41 AM
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Belly,

Compared to your continuous, vastly partisan mixture of selective truths and pure conjecture you have served up, I have at least tried to stick to the truth.

With respect to the 2pp JG was claiming an electoral mandate based on at the time a nearly 2% lead. This disappeared into negative territory, and even now is about 1/10th of a percent. Claiming a mandate based on this is pathetic, and not even JG tries to, as this may yet reverse again.

What we can expect from the Labor government yet again is to ignore their election promises and throw money around to buy votes.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Wednesday, 15 September 2010 8:34:37 AM
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SM your rhetoric is typical of the born to rule-ite type of thinking that proposes to the Australian public
"that if your not in Gov't then there is something wrong".

Not unlike the tea party conservatives in the U.S that claim they will "restore America" and rely upon the support of the least intelligent voters.
(The same 30%+ who believe Obama is a muslim for example). Restore America from what , too what ?.

Sounds legitimate, but of course in reality, isn't.

Two classic Oz examples "we'll stop the boats" and todays "the true cost of the NBN is being hidden from the public"
by the new un- ethical version of Malcolm Turnbull fresh from exile with his own version of Tony Speak.

Who's hiding the cost of the NBN, the Govt, departments, the people who did all the costings and studies, or a combination of all 3
in a conspiracy to defraud the Australian Taxpayer?.

Pandering, misinformation, and inflaming the fears of the least intelligent members of our community might work once for the Abbott Gang who think they're on a good thing with their rolling critique and believe their buddy Rupert will get them over the line next time,
if they can destabilise the current Govt.

Sadly Sm I cannot remember one piece of legislation implemented by a Coalition Govt in my lifetime that benefited me personally.
But then I'm not from the big end of town.

Not one piece of legislation that couldn't have been done better by someone else,
or best forgotten altogether because it was a product of small town thinking or
ideological dogma. I have a list however SM, of Coalition policy's that have effected me negatively, and still do now.

Belly and petej have copped a lashing from you SM, but as for your last rhetorical claim
"history proves that no one buys votes better than Coalition Gov'ts"
Posted by thinker 2, Wednesday, 15 September 2010 4:39:23 PM
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Thinker2,

Don't you see the irony of accusing me something and then doing exactly the same yourself?

Trying to link the liberals to the tea party conservatives would be like linking the Labor party to Stalin. Note the latest Newspoll gave Labor only 34% of the primary vote. Does this make them the lowest common denominator that believe in the NBN fairy tale?

The polls indicated that more than 80% felt that the boats were a problem, which both Labor and the Libs acknowledged. The difference is that the Liberals Pacific solution worked.

Labor in changing the policy said first that they anticipated no great change. Later they blamed it on the 12% increase in refugees world wide, and only after the strong liberal campaign did they admit that the 4000% increase may have been due to their policies.

As for the NBN feasibility review, there has not been a sound financial cost benefit analysis. The existing model relies on a $27bn hand out to the NBN company, and the remaining returns based on unrealistic take up figures and broadband charges that are higher than presently available in the city. The costing figures are obscure and don't mention that they will suddenly have to find an extra 20 000 technicians.

Are the 50% that dumped labor the least intelligent or the big end of town? Make up your mind. Maybe I was in the least intelligent group scared by fiscal incompetence, house fires and dead youths. Maybe your intelligentsia thinks that the end justifies the means?
Posted by Shadow Minister, Wednesday, 15 September 2010 5:35:07 PM
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Shadow Minister, rarely but it has happened you and I have found common ground.
I can be a bit of a smarty in replying to your hugely biased and strange posts.
Know this NEVER have I doubted you intelligence.
I have seen you as,,,,,a master of spin.
Seen an ability to step over the truth to throw sticks and stones at my side.
Your last post,,here has shaken me, no intent to be funny you stray from truth reality and common sense here.
You your side constantly sling junk at the green coalition.
Now you take totally different, yes they vote with you, party's and claim them as your own?
Then jump over the Elephant in the room pretending it is not there or a lie.
Our system is based on two party preferred.
You overlook LABOR leads the two party preferred vote.
You insult my rebutting your untruths.
Abbott is indeed dead ,big statement but.
He gave Turnbull the poisoned chalice, MOST Australians want the NBN.
Most parliamentarians too we will have it.
But you must know confrontation is not going to put Abbott in power if based on dribble like your last post.
Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 15 September 2010 5:48:54 PM
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