As per usual Gun Control Australia, a flakey outfit of a one-person human headline with a phone and a fax if there ever was one, is whipping up hysteria without any basis whatsoever. This whole beat-up resulted from a write-in suggestions section on the Liberal's site where in this case strong community support was shown for a particular idea someone sent in. It is not policy and Gun Control Australia knows that.

What the hysterical 'ban everything' fruit loops of Gun Control also realise is that gun crime in Australia has always been very low and it was trending forever downwards even before Howard's money wasting and ineffective buy-back, which was very expensive exercise in publicising Howard for an election.

As is abundantly clear, what gun crime there is results from the outlaw motorcycle gangs who authorities have finally admitted are the big importers and source of illegal guns in Australia. The other sources are thefts from security firms and police.

Concentrating on the wrong goal, ie 'gun control' and not on the real goal of reducing violence in Australia has already wasted many millions of dollars without any positive gains at all and there is plenty of peer reviewed research to prove that. Gun crime is directly linked with drugs not the law-abiding farmers and clay pigeon shooters who are all licensed and do not trade drugs.

If anything, all this new outbreak of sensationalist headline grabbing pap from the notoriously inaccurate and grandiosely titled Gun Control Australia (what a title!) demonstrates is its addiction to publicity in lieu of facts.

GY "Can you give us a link to the Liberal policy ChrisPer? This thread and your site are the only mentions of it that I can see with a quick Google."

He has not!

In the absence of anything to the contrary, one is left to presume it is simply a labor party dirty trick.

I suppose Julia & her union masters are so desperate they will stoop to anything to garner a vote

Hay King, once upon a time, this country used to trust me with a jet fighter, [not much of one I'll admit] armed with machine guns, & rockets.

For short periods it trusted me with a bl00dy great 4000 ton destroyer, armed with 6 x 4.5 inch guns & a few other things.

Please tell me why, now that I am no longer physically able to defend myself against thugs, I should not be trusted with a hand gun. I can still take the eye out of a fly with a rifle, haven't you noticed all the one eyed flies, [or is it people] around here?

There do not have to be many attacks by thugs mate, one will do. Ask my son, who still has double vision when he gets tired after just one such attack.

I very much doubt the libs would bring back guns, the noise from the chatters would be deafening, but it would be a good idea.

Once a shooter but now on the side of Wildlife ,I have a Land for Wildlife sticker on the ute also a "No more dams sticker" .

Surprise,surprise, I get an unwanted sticker added, saying "Stop the extreme Greens ",and in red, "Vote Shooters and Fishers Party" .

No doubt the Libs and the Nationals like this sticker as a backup for their Preference Deals .

I seem to remember an old political leader's saying, "power comes out the barrel of a Gun " .

There is no link to the Libs policy for two reasons:

1) It isn't Lib policy but an unhinged beat-up by the Gun Control proponents. As far as I can tell, every Gun Control Australia assertion in this piece is either flat wrong or spun so far from rationality that its unrecognisable.

2) The rant is based on a couple of past user suggestions (as Cornflower said). When the election was called, the Libs put up a new website that removed user suggestions and limited discussion to actual Liberal policy.