Foxy, that was pathetic.

Yes it takes 2 to tango, and what I said applies equally or more so to the other dufus. Apportioning blame to the other party does not absolve JG of any. I have no idea of who the dufus and don't care, as this is not about him.

The state of his marriage is irrelevant, as the idiocy of the act still applies. There is simply no rational that can paint this as any thing other than stupid and conniving. It probably helped her to pledge allegiance to Rudd with sincerity, then put the knife in at the first opportunity.

Belly,

As a married man I have had several opportunities to stray, but it came to the crunch I knew that my kids mattered far more to me than any tryst. And in 23 yrs have yet to stray. Though I admit to some window shopping.

Agree with Pelican, Poirot, Foxy - setting high standards as usual.

Forrest - very funny, but then I do have a warped sense of humour. I am so glad you didn't resist.

Runner

I have been sitting in happy reverie, recalling lovers past, may be there were one or two I shouldn't have slept with (hey, we all make mistakes).... but I have wonderful memories (memories don't decline with age) and the future looks very good too...

I have absolutely zero power over others, so I certainly can't be accused of using sex to get anything... except satisfaction and my present happy glow.

Graham Y

Thanks for another opportunity to reveal the horror that is fundamentalist religion.

:D

Dear Forrest Gumpp,

In "Deliverance", the publication of Exit International which lobbies for voluntary euthanasia there was an item headed "New Prime Minister Dumps Mandatory Net Filter!"

The story was based on the fact that the 'Clean Feed' plan will be sent off to the joint States and Territories inquiry for a 12 month review. The review process will focus on the entire RC (Refused Classification) protocol. This was seen as a quiet way of getting rid of the plan without stirring up those who want it. Hopefully the interpretation is correct.

It was done this way rather than dumping it outright to avoid clashing with Rudd and his supporters who wanted censorship.

http://bit.ly/98Rv5q is the url for a history of censorship in Australia in an exhibition in the Baillieu Library at the University of Melbourne.

Foxy

You seem to miss the point. You write

'And as I tried to point out in my earlier post - people do make
mistakes, admit them, try to resolve them, and move on.'

Has Ms Gillard admitted her affair with a married man and knifing of Mr Rudd was wrong? If so, she would go up along way in my estimation. The point is her philosophical position is that their are no such things as absolutes (right and wrong) or at very least she can make her mind up what is right and wrong. This philosophy has already led to guilt free baby murders and immoral relationships even if they deny kids of mums and dads. I think after your years of harsh judgements on Mr Howard you are being a bit two faced.

Dear Shadow Minister,

We are two people with completely and
fundamentally different ways of seeing
this issue. I would not presume to judge
the essence of any dysfunctional
relationship. And if you see that as
"pathetic," I guess that's something I'll
have to learn to live with.

Dear runner,

It wasn't just me that judged Mr Howard.
The voters of this country did.
Not only was his Party
booted out, but so was he, out of his own
Electorate. Perhaps you need to do some
to research to find out the reasons why?

cont'd ...

If you don't want to do your own research
into Mr Howard's legacy, this website
may help:

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=10661

"Howard's legacy..." by Bruce Haigh.

View the entire article, it's worth a read.