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Sleeping your way to the top

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Some say its no one else's business but I have no doubt that private philosophy determines public policy. Those that claim that ones private life is no one elses business are first to criticize Abbott for his private beliefs. Ms Gillard's latest revelations of having an affair with a married man with kids really reveals a huge character flaw. I suppose with Bob Hawke as a mentor it is no wonder. It seems sleeping your way to the top is still going on. Where are the feminist outcries?
Posted by runner, Thursday, 29 July 2010 2:26:28 PM
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Dear runner,

I'm really surprised at you for this thread.
Don't you know that it's not their sex lives
that matter, but the way they run the countries?
Look at the heritages of the Kennedy Family,
Bill Clinton, the current President of France,
and so on. All were popular, and their sex
lives simply made them all that more interesting.

However,
why pick on just the Labor Candidate, if
you're into people's sex lives?

The former Liberal Leader - Brendan Nelson,
divorced - third wife.
Bronwyn Bishop - divorced.
Julie Bishop - divorced - currently in a
defacto relationship with a divorced man.
Warren Entsch - in a defacto relationship.
Ross Cameron (Parramatta) revealed as an adulterer.

What about the notorious "womanisers" - Andrew
Peacock, and Harold Holt? And the many others...

I'm sure if you were to scrutinize
any powerful person's private life - you could come up
with all sorts of interesting data and
"exciting" reading. Though I doubt that people
who actually got into power had other qualities apart
from sex on offer. But, like Catherine the Great - they may
have used their power to acquire sex, once they
got in.

Anyway, don't be obsessed with sex.
Instead may I suggest:

Enjoy your own sex life (so long as it damages nobody
else) and leave others to enjoy theirs in private
whatever their inclinations, which are none of your
business.

Or if their private lives are of real concern to you -
ask Tony Abbott what he got up to as a uni-student,
and what was all that scandal in the press about him
having fathered a child out of wedlock?
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 29 July 2010 3:40:36 PM
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They're all out to get her just because she is a woman!

If a male politician was unmarried with no children and had a live in hairdresser girlfriend I'm sure there would be no comment at all. In fact, how many male politicians have to show they have a wife and kids, and prove or justify their religious beliefs or their 'family values'. It just isn't an issue for men is it!

Nobody has ever commented on Abbott's ears or his swim wear for instance, and all anyone can talk about is Julia's earlobes and dresses. It's so sexist! Nobody has ever commented on Tony Abbot's religious beliefs, yet Julia's lack of belief is fair game. It's not fair! Nobody has ever commented on Abbott's love child, why would anyone comment on Julia's affair with a married man.

This boys club of politics is disgusting.

All Julia wants is for her gender and life style not to be issues. I know because I read about it in the 15 page spread for a women's magazine, when she talks about her love life and beliefs and ...

Ahhhh!
Posted by Houellebecq, Thursday, 29 July 2010 3:42:00 PM
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cont'd ...

oops - sorry - I'm a bit tired and made a typo.
The sentence that reads, "Though I doubt..."
Should have read -,"Though I'm sure that people
who got into power had other qualities apart from
sex on offer..."
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 29 July 2010 3:49:08 PM
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runner you really are the most vile christian I have ever come across.

How could ms Gillards affair possibly affect her policies? Will she make it legal to be adulterous? Oops its not illegal now is it? Will she force us all to be adulterers?
What is this sleeping to the top s#@t? Did she(or even could she)have gained personally? This is just in the gutter mudslinging from a christian extremest who hates anyone who dosent agree with them.

Abbotts beliefs have and will colour his whole attitude to policy. As we saw with the morning after pill. As we saw with his attitude to women and I quote

"If we're honest, most of us would accept that a bad boss is a little bit like a bad father or a bad husband - notwithstanding all of his faults, you find he tends to do more good than harm. He might be a bad boss but at least he's employing someone while he is in fact a boss."

Where is your outrage and condemnation of your kiddy fiddling priests? A far more serious danger to children than ms Gillard having an affair.

If private philosophy determines public policy then what can we glean from the acts of the pedophile priests? That their private molestations infect their sermonising and pastoral care. That their destruction of lives and childhoods will affect who they "care" for and who they dont?

Give it up runner you are on a hiding to nothing with all the filth your lot get up to.
Posted by mikk, Thursday, 29 July 2010 3:55:17 PM
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Thanks for your reply Foxy and Houellebecq

You both make some interesting and relevant points. I know Tony Abott and many on all sides of politics have pasts they would regret and not want published. I do however feel that if a politician is going to put there stories on the front page of magazines in order to portray a positive image then they should be willing to be open to scrutiny. The secularist pin up girl certainly lives up to the perception that secularism really has little to no moral values.

I could be wrong but I seem to remember that Mr Abbot has admitted that his has a fallen past. He was soundly criticized for advising his daughters not to give away their virginity cheaply. There were several posts on OLO regarding this issue. It is one thing to be cheat and be unfaithful and another thing to pretend their is nothing wrong with it. Being a woman contender should not silence the sisterhood and jump on anyone asking the question.

Personally I think it is an indictment on the Australian public that a man or a woman can brazenly sleep with someone else's wife/husband, stab a sitting prime minister in the back and then asked to be trusted. I don't necessarily see this as an genda issue. I see it as a very poor reflection on a country that has many faults but has generally respected common decency in the past.

Funny enough though I obviously would prefer a Liberal win I would must prefer a politician either labour or liberal with a few decent morals that I can point my kids towards as examples. Labour has had people like that in the past. Now it is all about being elected and I think Liberal is only marginally better than Labour.

You obviously don't believe private philosophy determines public performance and yet when Abbott opposed the abortion drug people screamed murder (ironically).
Posted by runner, Thursday, 29 July 2010 4:10:06 PM
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