I am no crawler and just about as different from GY as you can get.
BUT please let us not censor things we do not like.
I learn from this thread runner will go to any depths to condemn those he is opposed to.
And I challenge every poster who ever posted here to say their sex lives never wandered at some time.
The affair did not bring Julia to the top it had nothing to do with her policy's and runner is no average voter.
No party surely? would ever fill his wants.
I however highlight just how low SOME who support conservatives are going to try to defeat this government.
Dragging Latham out is one of a hundred crimes against fair reporting.
Here we see references to shew, and more in threads a desperate time and desperation drives some.
After Labor is returned just maybe we can see policy's replace mud throwing.

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Sorry. Couldn't resist. Very immoderate of me.

Thank you Graham
I agree with all you have said. The inference and heading that Gillard slept her way to the top was wrong. I apologize. The fact that she had an affair with a married man and knifed the previous pm should raise doubts about character with every parent who sees our leaders as being role models. Her private morals or lack of it works out into public policy. Only those blinded by their own dogmas can't and won't see that.Next someone will be telling me its okay to for a member of Parliament to be sitting down watching porn all day and be given the role looking after the censorship board.

One thing I admire about the Australian public is when Tony Abbott's private life and alleged love child became news, people instead of being hateful and judgemental, looked forward to a union of father and son. That was not to be of course when further information came to hand.

I despair sometimes for those who constantly live in judgement of others for doing nothing more than living their lives. People on both sides of politics have made mistakes - people sometimes do.

To relate those mistakes to broader policy making is stretching it a bit IMO. We tend to excuse mistakes more from those we agree than those we don't - that is also human and may I suggest that is the case here.

Pelican,

Thank you.

runner,

Please take special note of pelican's post.
Talking of "role models" - if I were to give instruction to my children as to the practice of basic decency and morality on a human level - yours are the posts that I would hold up as the antithesis of constructive and compassionate dialogue.

I'm waiting for you to surprise me one day with a demonstration of true Christian charity and understanding....