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The Kiss that Konfused the Electorate....

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examinator and sonofglin:

Here's an interesting insider view that confirms what you are saying:

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/opinion/no-one-assassinated-rudd-he-simply-topped-himself/story-e6frg6zo-1225897188218

Wow. Ugly stuff.
Posted by Pynchme, Tuesday, 27 July 2010 1:38:29 AM
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Pynchme, yes that is the sort of stuff I had been regaled with. My first concern was the fact that Kevin had aspirations towards the U.N. and climate change was his ticket to the UN swill bucket. It seems to have worked with a U.N. job now sitting out there waiting for him. I want my P.M to have the leadership of my country as the ultimate career move, not just the stepping stone to his ego driven future.
Posted by sonofgloin, Tuesday, 27 July 2010 8:56:15 AM
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sonofgloin,

Sadly, it is the system that is flawed in that it attracts and fosters the selfish side of candidates.

By the way, the Libs have "hinted at a promotion" for our suspect Member.
Could it be because of the wonderful job he's doing for the country? nah. The electorate? nah. Clearly it is to help not lose a seat to the Labor or greens. With this sort of motivation any wonder we have such a flawed lot in parliament.The idea that this individual is to become a minister ....heaven help us.

Both sides simply want the bums on seats in parliament for party interests. KR is supported for the same reason.

My big concern with your desire that PMs consider that as the ultimate job flies in the face of the above motivational/egotistical pressures.

The article quoted while probably true in one aspect it is full of revenge...and a myopic ego.

I would challenge that journo to tell me of his senior management experience that permits him to knowledgeably sit in judgement.

It's a bit like the beat up from ABC24 about KR not attending all meetings of the national security committee et al.
The story is predicated on the basis of the importance of the members of the committee. i.e. their egos were bent.

They admit he was there for all major issues and across them.
My point is, that much is said about Rudd but objectively his flaws were that he tried to do it all himself thus offending others' egos..

Clearly he's not a team player. isn't the result, substance, better than a cuddly vacuous personality (Hockey) or rhetoric drive (Pyne)? In the final analysis his approach was inappropriate but beyond that, comment is largely subjective and egocentrically based.
Posted by examinator, Tuesday, 27 July 2010 1:16:17 PM
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Do not start me on the journeyman Pyne. A law degree and liberal apprenticeship, Pyne is a robot. You would like to believe that in certain portfolios such as health and education that the minister would be simpatico with the portfolio. Pyne had aging and now he has education, save us. As I said he is not just a party career man, but a groomed apparatchik from first year uni. Straight into a Lib job, then into a safe Lib seat, and nothing comes out except rhetorical regurgitation.

This sums him up, from a fellow South Australian just before the 2007 election:

"Having met many times and having been to many functions with the distinguished Mr. Pyne, I can tell you comfortably that he is a prat. He is arrogant, clueless on most subjects and cannot hold a conversation without marketing himself constantly."

E, the Party chooses the prat, and then they parade this passionless prat in front of us. But I am still voting Labor out.

Who is your local prat? The one you have taken such a shine to.
Posted by sonofgloin, Tuesday, 27 July 2010 5:03:48 PM
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Well Blue Cross, if it is implosion we must have better buckle up because it will make the man from Snowy River's ride look like a sedate trot in the park.
Posted by Richie 10, Thursday, 29 July 2010 10:39:12 AM
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sonofgloin,

Snap! I've met Pyne (ocleen) too and like the product, his advertising is better than his performance.

I have the same lame (hint) excuse of a candidate here, same party same self aggrandising attitude too... a party trend perhaps. one of the LNP state members is similarly inclined...both are out of their depth when it comes to understanding the public....almost born to rule inclined.

There is a notion up here amongst some that the 64 votes that got the Lame fed member in were indeed "postal" (they were crazy destructive .. like the Douglas in the movie). Our last Labor member was a nice bloke but well out of his depth too. Intelligence, a sense of duty to the people, integrity, competence are attributes sorely missing in politics.
Posted by examinator, Thursday, 29 July 2010 11:57:36 AM
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