The problem is that Tony is just too nice.

He obviously took one look at Julia & could see she is lacking any affection in her life, & tried to help. Julia is obviously one of those who will take a cuddle anywhere she can get one, lets face it, she'd have to, with her voice, looks, & disposition to stabbing people in the back.

I hope his minders checked Tony for sharp implements left in his back, after the episode.

If we are silly enough to elect her, we'll have to pull knives out of our economy every night.

examinator:>> Did you get party approval for you political advert?
You will be pleased to note that the incompetent that is our sitting member will probably returned ...he is one of your lot.<<

E, I booted Howard for work choices, I booted Fraser because of his support for Mugabe, the Khmer Rouge, and the recognition of Indonesia’s sovereignty of Timor. I am booting the current Labor feds because they could not organize a chook raffle in a pub. My reason is not because of "social issues" as with the previously booted, it is primarily the economic incompetence and waste of the money they had, and the ongoing waste of the money they borrowed. I am nobody's "boy" I make decisions based on track record.

Hasbeen:>> The problem is that Tony is just too nice.
Julia is obviously one of those who will take a cuddle anywhere she can get one, lets face it, she'd have to, with her voice, looks, & disposition to stabbing people in the back.<<

H, politicians are not "nice". They are egocentric and primarily self serving. Our quest is to find a "lot" who feels some responsibility to the electorate and makes decisions based on what the electorate wants, rather than the myriad of lobby groups that stalk the corridors of power. Further to that I would need them to be at least partially competent.

Finally Julia is a product of her gene pool; it is vindictive to attack her on any issue other than her performance as a paid parliamentarian

sonofgloin,
Thank you for that, I stand corrected.

The problem is that the public is 'schizoid' about management i.e. they are happy to crucify the MD of BHP yet the board and management are untouched...
Conversely the public are taring JG with Rudd's management. i.e. what happened under Rudd is her fault.
In reality it is clear that the Labor government was DOMINATED by Rudd.
I can't see that Julia as the 2IC had that much of a final say. Smartness on her part would have dictated hat she didn't rip into or complain too loud. Was she gutless...no point to any corp 2IC and their effectiveness depends entirely on the Boss.

JG once she took over, the means of which was/is part and parcel of life at the top, she stepped in and clearly made the changes that needed making. Any new Boss worth their salt would have done the same (including corporately)

If the truth be known the man who has taken over at BP US would not have been a passive player he could have said no thanks I support the outgoing.

JG has and will stamp HER way the team operates. I.e. I doubt that she would have vacillated so long as Kevin did on issues she would have gone about the issues differently (she is a skilled and accomplished negotiator).
Lumping her with KR is bollocks (party spin)emotional reasoning

The thing about politics is it's ALL "spin". Even personal politics at work, home and play is "spin". That's the nature of politics, that's why it's "politics".

Politics is about "belief". All sides of the political spectrum are EXACTLY the same in this regard.

Whilst our "cumulative" knowledge as a species has enabled us to reach our current state of technology, our actual intellectual capacity remains much the same as it was during the stone age ...... "politics" is one prime example of our intellectual incapacity.

examinator:>> JG has and will stamp HER way the team operates.
Lumping her with KR is bollocks (party spin)emotional reasoning.<<

I agree with both statements. Julia is a professional politician and Kevin is a professional bureaucrat.
I have friends and relatives who are staffers and public servants in Canberra. We never discuss “politics" per say but we whine to each other about our jobs, as all friends do.

From these sources I gleaned early in the term that Kevin was a one man show thanks to his ego. While Julia stuck around for the first year and did everything, Kevin travelled overseas working to secure his next career move. The girl is a talent no doubt; I have seen her get to Kerry O’Brian many times, she knows her stuff without script or prompts.

My issue is with the Labor team, not just the decision makers. Every project they have touched could have reaped double the reward to “we” the people, the ones who have to pay it back. We paid up to double the market rate for every project from solar and pink batts to the BER fiasco. The sub contractor at the bottom of the heap was paid market rate for their toil but the bill to the tax payer was double.

I know that the NSW Labor Govt siphoned off a load of it in management and implementation frauds, they needed the money desperately, and in regard to the BER the primary contractors took a ridiculous amount to make a phone call to the poor sod that actually did the work at market rate. We could have had twice as much stimulus but the Ministers implementing the projects did not do the basics, take care of our interests. You can build a 5 bedroom house for $300K, yet a portable BER shed cost $800K because the deal went through the State Education Dept and a handful of primary contractors.

Julia or no Julia the team is flawed.