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Marxism - Leninism

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I thank as always foxy for reminding an old bloke about Marxism, anD Stern for the last line in that post, it is so true.
Once Marxism meant a lot to me, then Socialism,but both in current form do not work.
We have a form of Socialism here, have always had, but too many miss use it.
ST G bloke I know you are not very old, but you are much better than that post.
Learn friend to control your anger.
To not show it or some will fish for it over and again.
Never forget you I any one is not always right.
I continue to praise most Christians, but no longer believe, do I have a right in your mind to be me?
And can I say I find it increasingly hard to see Christians devalue other reildgions rights?
I had forgotten much of Carl Marx his thoughts on God are mine too.
I true am only repeating others stated views but while reildgions gave mankind laws to live by moral ethical and in every way, some use it to gain power.
The tools used are fear promises and a great deal we would blame cults for.
If ST G you could prove the Christ of my younger years exists, and mirror,s the views of most believers here I Would live this life standing not on My knees to such a person.
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 17 July 2010 6:01:35 PM
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Dear Belly,

As I've said before, you're a man who
has a heart of gold, and integrity to spare.
I consider myself fortunate to count you
as a friend, and its a sheer pleasure to
share cyberspace with you.

I won't say anymore as I don't want to
embarrass you. ;-)
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 17 July 2010 6:22:22 PM
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Marxism was a great ideology,until people have finally learned
this ideology was merely a clever cover for mass murderers and thieves,who hid behind this so called " progressive " ideology
and tried to justify their massacres and thievery with poor Marx.
The communist parties all over the world have committed unlimited amounts of massacres, all in the name of marxism and progress...When will people learn, that NO one has the right to massacre and rob people in the name of any ideology ? Look at the world today, communist parties all over the world are still massacring innocent people, just to steal their properties, their belongings, and they commit these massacres in the name of marxism...what a joke. Marxism today is nothing but a clever cover for mass murderers and thieves. Look at the east european ex - communists.... they have all become capitalists in a blink of an eye, to legalize their power over their unfortunate people. Not one communist mass murderer was ever arrested and charged for their crimes against humanity...This is the perfect business to be in ! Kill, rob and rape in the name of " progress " and
get away with it free and clean ! Between 1917 and 1989 the communist parties all over the world have massacred over 200 million innocent men,women,and children, and not one of these mass murderers were ever punished ! you know why ? Because the " FREEMASONS " who rule the west, are the masters of the so called communists, who still rule the east.. so freemason westerners do not punish their communist servants in the east at all... There is NO truth, NO justice and NO MORALS in the world anymore. The " FRreemasons " did a perfect job, destroying
the human soul....
Posted by David666, Monday, 19 July 2010 9:02:24 PM
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StG et al,

Despite his much reported "opium of the people" quip, Marx felt religion irrelevant to materialism, except to say that religion was served as a distraction to blights of humanity. Else put, if worrying about God is immaterial, there is little point going-on about atheism, because this mirror image is equally immaterial. Materialism is the opposite of immaterialism. Neither, theism nor ant-theism were high on Marx's agenda.
Posted by Oliver, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 9:31:52 AM
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Dear David666,

AS I''ve posted earlier - it is important
to realize, that Marxism is not the same
as communism. Marx would have been dismayed
at many of the practices of communist
movements, and he cannot be held responsible
for policies pursued in his name a century after
his death.

Perhaps you need to do a bit more research into
Soviet-Style Socialism to understand what was
actually being practiced.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 1:42:53 PM
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Foxy,
>>Marx would have been dismayed
at many of the practices of communist
movements, and he cannot be held responsible
for policies pursued in his name a century after
his death.<<

That is true, and so is:

“Jesus would have been dismayed
at many of the practices of the Medieval
Church, and he cannot be held responsible
for practices pursued in his name a millennium after
his death.”

Nevertheless, one can understand that somebody who was discriminated by the Church, (or worse) - e.g. a Jew having had to live in a ghetto - could have felt uneasy about Jesus. Well, I am not a Jew who lived in the Middle Ages, but a Christian who grew up in a Communist country, and though I do not feel uneasy about Marx any more, I can understand those who still do.
Posted by George, Wednesday, 21 July 2010 7:42:09 AM
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