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What is an election?

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What out comes do you expect, who do you think will win why.
No party surely can give any of us every thing we want.
Maybe the winner has the job of pleasing the most voters.
You will see some say no politician is worth voting for but is that true?
Is an election a trade off between what each of us wants and what we get?
Posted by Belly, Monday, 5 July 2010 6:29:42 AM
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An election is an illusionary perception of a democracy.
Posted by Ginx, Monday, 5 July 2010 11:21:07 AM
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Then ginx what is the alternative?
In fact elections bring about unhappiness no matter who wins, at least 40% did not want them to.
I offer ginx post as evidence some, maybe all of us expect too much.
If they had not been brain washed over generations, if they understood I am sure North Koreans would love an election.
Or if it was fair Zimbabwe would like one too.
Some may find it hard to understand but even histories great leaders had some who hated them.
Posted by Belly, Monday, 5 July 2010 4:58:12 PM
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The only lean i see to this post is the question of why we seem to have such little choice. Is it because the parties are well attuned to what the community want and the only decision is whether we need tight budget control or whether we need someone to do something, Or could it be that we are so carefully manipulated by the media, business and the dominate political forces of globalism that any voice that doesn't play the right game is immediately condemned as wrong or was that left.
I do find it disappointing that we don't have a genuinely strong third force that could split the other two up and back to their old corners. Everything we now vote for seems homogenised, it really is a leaders election. How many people do you know that voted for there local labor member at the last election were actually voting for them or voting for Rudd.
I do agree though, it is great that we actually do have free and safe elections, that we will not vote agains't.
Posted by nairbe, Monday, 5 July 2010 6:18:02 PM
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Dear Belly,

I believe that Labor will win the next election.
Most people don't want to see Tony Abbott as
Prime Minister. He and his Front Bench represent
the previous Howard era. Few Australians would
want to see the country return to that past.

Howevr, Julia Gillard might be well advised to go
to an election as soon as possible, before her gloss
wear off.

It seems that leadership has become quite expendable.
Out with the old, in with the new. Don't fix things,
like they did in the good old days, simply replace
them with newer models. Are we becoming
a "disposable society," like the US?

Tony Wright, in "The Age," Saturday, July 3rd, 2010,
seems to think so. He writes:

" If your microwave, or just about any other
electrical appliance has blown up recently, it's
a fair bet you didn't bother having it repaired.
Easier, quicker and mostly cheaper to junk it
and buy a new one. It's the age of obsolescence.
Mobile phone gone haywire? Get a new one.
TV? Same thing. We don't stick with things and try
to fix them any more. Don't need to - there's
always a new model. Today's Australians are not like
their parents or grandparents who lived through a
depression and emerged with an obsession for
saving things...If something in the house or shed
went on the blink, they simply fixed it, or called
in a handyman who could do so. They persevered with
what they had, resorting to purchasing new models
only when the old standby was clean worn out, unable
to be revived..."

Well Bells, no more. Out with the old, in with the new,
faster and faster. It infects our society from the
divorce courts all the way to politics.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 5 July 2010 7:08:06 PM
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cont'd ...

I forgot to answer your question about
elections.

What is an election?

An election is where we get to have a say in
which political party we want to run the country.
We don't have a say in who the PM will be or who the
selected Cabinet will be.

Elections are determined by wealth distribution
throughout the country. Areas with higher wealth
appear to prefer the Liberal Party. Areas with
less wealth and unemployment usually prefer Labor.

Unless the choice of the individual likely to be in
charge of the country is so abhorrent people will vote
for the best available choice. As is the case currently,
where Julia Gillard is the preferred choice to Tony
Abbott - who represents the Howard legacy which no
one wants.

In any case, the much touted notion that governments
govern for all, is not believed by significant numbers
of voters. It's all too obvious that governments
actually don't do this. There are vested interests
at play. "Wedge politics," deliberately creating a
division between sectoral interests - is the name of
the game. Hence, interest group self interest and
antagonism between citizens permeates policy making.

There is "them" and "us" rather than simply "us", and
much effort is employed in partisan politics which could
be much better utilised in positive pursuits.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 5 July 2010 7:33:10 PM
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