But seriously, Boaz, it is probably about time you stopped pretending to be some kind of expert on UK politics. It is far more subtle and nuanced than your armchair black-and-white analysis could possibly comprehend.

If you continue to use the resources of the BNP web site as the fons et origo that guides your thought processes, you will inevitably look very silly. As you did with Barking.

Try an experiment sometime. Instead of diving straight in to the BNP view of life in the UK, look at some competing ideas, then form an opinion that is actually your own.

It will take time, as there is some significant political depth over there, covering many centuries of thinking people.

But you really should give it a try.

Here is a starter pack for you, courtesy of Keele University.

http://www.keele.ac.uk/depts/por/ptbase.htm

Let me know how you get on, won't you.

Good grief.. I am back managing Pericles.. well..I'll make this a short one.

You said:

//"Your past behaviour suggests that you are attempting to equate the implications of paedophlia inherent in the COG video, with the "teachings" that you, personally, ascribe to Muslims.//

No Pericles.. for the gazillionth time, you keep on replacing "Islam" as a set of ideas with "Muslims" a group of people.

I was showing how one set of ideas (COG) translated into unlawful and despicable behavior.

Then I showed a similar set of ideas..which IF they had the freedom from our laws to practice WOULD also translate into descpicable and inhuman behavior.

You can call it as you see it... it all begins with the ideas....doctrines..and in this case, now that you have admitted to reading the material.. you jolly well know what it's all about.

You also know that the same conclusions were clearly found by a NON religious poster.... and any honest person reading the same material will also arrive at such conclusions.

Which raises the question..."Why" do you not so conclude and/or if you DO happen to be able to demonstrate something around oh.. primary 6 comprehension...you don't come out and concur that such teaching is abhorrent.

You play the 'COG' is a cult/sect..but Islam ? :) oh come Pericles...
the only reason the COG did not become a force like Islam is because they didn't fight against and win against the establishment.

Had they done so..those ideas would be the norm wherever they ruled.

You are your own worst enemy on this.. if you simply stayed quiet..I'd be saying only about half what I end up saying to manage you.

"You" don't need to defend the COG or Islam or Buddhism or any faith... they can stand or fall in the public arena like all others.

On the BNP ? oh my.. yep.. u got me.. I immerse myself in 'their' web site..and I NEVER ever EVER look at other material to confirm or dispute what they say.. yep.. busted ... well...that makes as much sense as your bluster.

You said ZERO about the sins of Labor Cons Dems.. ZERO.. and this is an indictment on your prejudice 'young fella'

18,000,000 to UNITE ! ! ! ...and you are raving hysterically like a frantic white-a-phobic Nick Lowles or a Labour Troll on the HopeNotHATE BUS,...waving your piccy of Gordon Brown ...apparently your hero.

I already pity you.. don't drive me to something stronger than Milo for goodness sake.

Care to comment intelligently on the ethics of that Unite contribution ? :) The BNP have.. surely you can do better.

Well Al, I wouldn't be paying too much attention to what the UK Telegraph says, considering it's support for the Conservatives over there and anti-Labour Stance in particular, earning itself the local nickname of "The Torygraph".

A bit like expecting Alan Jones to start spruiking for Rudd perhaps.

You're the one who seems to think something's happening for some diabolical reason and is being drawn to the BNP like disaffected Aussies were to One Nation a while ago. Are they being "swamped" too?

So, if it's real - what's the REAL reason and who's behind it?

Now now, Boaz, don't get so agitated, it's not at all convincing.

>>you are raving hysterically like a frantic white-a-phobic Nick Lowles or a Labour Troll on the HopeNotHATE BUS,...waving your piccy of Gordon Brown ...apparently your hero<<

At some point you are going to have to confess that you haven't the faintest notion as to what goes on in UK politics. The evidence from this little rant is that you cannot even get your insults pointed in the right direction.

Just like you misread Barking.

But on to more serious matters, that you are supposed to actually know something about: Christian cults, and their fear of Islam.

And Muslims.

>>No Pericles.. for the gazillionth time, you keep on replacing "Islam" as a set of ideas with "Muslims" a group of people.<<

You can't pretend that Muslims do not follow Islam, nor deny that you deploy the word "Islam" on every single occasion that you would like us to share your fear.

You apply the same nefarious objective - the dominance of all other religions - to them all. As individuals. At every opportunity. Otherwise, why all those carefully-selected verses that you keep bringing up?

Incidentally, you would be far more convincing if you were able to leave out the conditionals from your fear-mongering.

>> ideas..which IF they had the freedom from our laws to practice WOULD also translate into descpicable and inhuman behavior.<<

They haven't. And they don't. Why do you suggest they would?

>>the only reason the COG did not become a force like Islam is because they didn't fight against and win against the establishment.<<

You're kidding. Even by your own standards, that's a pretty rocky piece of logic. The reason that COG - and all similar cults - does not become a "force" is because they are fringe organizations, operating at the very edges of the law. As and when they are exposed, they will be snuffed out.

Pesky Pericles.. surely there is none like you :) *rolls eyes*

*You can't pretend that Muslims do not follow Islam,*

Wellllll..what an admission. An admission which shows the true dimensions of yor utter hyprocisy.

You know jolly well that the behavior permitted by the Quran is inhuman and degenerate.. you know this full well..because you HAVE read the material. You have also seen it clearly understood by a "non faith" based person.. who just had to read it.. the Quran and the interpretation by an Islamic scholar...

but

What do you trot out ?

//nor deny that you deploy the word "Islam" on every single occasion that you would like us to share your fear.//

Not fear Pericles...*contempt*..righteous indignation.. in the public interest (as such behavior is unlawful), -abhorrence...and lawful action to oppose such insidious and nefarious (thanx) values growing in our society.

The truth is Pericles.. I've hardly said 'boo' about "Islam" lately.. Proxy said more than enough for 10 of me...I've just chirped in from the sidelines about 'methods and reasoning' among the rationality-challenged like you and CJ.. now..I'm just reacting to your own pokings. But I'm keeping your manic hysteria on a short leash..I didn't come back to hammer away at "Islam"

RACHE..aah.. a refreshing change :)

Sure..the 'ToryGraph' is one thing... like the Terrorgraph in Sydney.

But ask yourself this.. WAS there a payment of PS18,000,000 given to Pericles favorite Union "UNITE" by Labor ? or not....it's a simple issue of fact..not where or by whom it was reported.

The details are in the story... it was spread over a long period..from 1998...they didn't hide that. Of course the headline kinda skews the spread. It is still factual.

I'd love to have an hour or 3 going through trends in the UK with you.. coffee ? :) kidding.. the BNP are a strategic tool..they are as prone to corruption as any party which has humans in their ranks.