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Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 6 June 2010 10:59:10 PM
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Why should anybody respect this (illegal) blockade anyway?
When most other countries had sanctions against South Africa during the oppressive Arpatheid regime, guess which country was not only supplying the South Africans with military equipment but also training their brutal Security Forces? It was the same country that was supplying most of the South American dictators with their armaments as well. It's also the same country that politically and financially supported Hamas when they decided to get rid of Fatah. The reason certain foods are considered "banned" in this blockade is because the Israelis are monitoring the caloric intake of the Palestinian population. This isn't about the threat of military equipment but it's about deliberately keeping them as close to starvation as possible. "The idea," said Dov Weisglass, an Israeli government advisor, "is to put the Palestinians on a diet, but not make them die of hunger." Fishing boats are fired on if they go beyond a 3km limit but the fish are typically 6km from shore. Typical of the brutal thuggish regime they have become - while all the psuedo-Biblical hypocrites ignore this, cheer them on from the sidelines and expect this to lead to some sort of lasting peace in the region. For international terrorism, the actions of Israel are the gift that keeps on giving. Posted by wobbles, Monday, 7 June 2010 2:48:36 AM
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wobbles,
Where and by whom are these wild claims of diet and starvation being applied by the Israelis verified? I suggest you read reputable sites rather than propagander. The Israelis trucked all the legitimate supplies into the Palistinians along with bussing the passengers and the illegals. Posted by Philo, Monday, 7 June 2010 8:37:36 AM
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Here is an article from Ha'aretz, which describes the call by Naval Reservists, for an International Inquiry into the incident: http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/israel-navy-reserves-officers-allow-external-gaza-flotilla-probe-1.294536 Israel is refusing the investigation until they manage to find an actual impartial group, which is going to be kind of difficult.
Here are the pictures from "The Daily Hurriyet" showing pictures of IDF members, in various states of distress which they claim were taken & released by the IHH: http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php?msg=commentsaved&n=hurriyet-daily-publishes-photos-of-bloodied-israeli-soldiers-2010-06-06 Note, the comments- several people express disbelief at the paper printing such pictures which are so damaging to the IHH's official position, while others praise the journalistic integrity thereof (a group I belong in, that took major integrity). Now, try and say that those in the first wave (1) weren't beaten; (2) seriously injured; (3) captured; and (4) freed by the second wave... The Turks admit it FFS. I know it is asking a lot, when I ask for fair-minded obsevers (might I suggest that explains Netanyahu's delay in accepting who will take part in the inquiry) anywhere, even here (where the incidence of AIDP is disturbingly high). Please, no platitudes, quotes from self-hating Jews, or statements from the Palestinian press machine, if you wish to respond, respond yourself. Posted by Custard, Monday, 7 June 2010 8:49:14 AM
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Well what do you know?
It was about peace all along. "Iran Revolutionary Guards ready to escort Gaza ships" http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100606/wl_nm/us_israel_flotilla_iran Posted by Proxy, Monday, 7 June 2010 8:55:10 AM
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Wobbles wrote
>Why should anybody respect this (illegal) blockade anyway? Even if there was not a blockade on the Gaza port it is not a designated port of entry. For your information every country designates ports of entry. For instance Sydney is a port of entry but Broken Bay is not. It is illegal for ships from overseas to enter a non port of entry. So even if the blockade was not in place, it is still illegal to enter Gaza port. Did you see the BBC's report of the shops in Gaza stocked to the ceiling ? There does not seem to be a food shortage. Posted by Bazz, Monday, 7 June 2010 3:36:18 PM
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always been one-sided, and this
was detrimental to a broader understanding
of the conflict. The lack of Arab or
Palestinian sources - and greater suspicion
towards them - led to a skewed perspective
and meant that the debate continued to follow
the same old paths. Let us hope that this
time both sides of the coin will be presented.
Putting a human face to the Palestinian people
and explicitly saying that immoral acts will not
be tolerated, should be acceptable in a
democratic news media. Why is it over the top
and hysteria to advocate Palestinian human rights
and an independent homeland? After all, the Jews
already have Israel. I suppose it is far easier
to demonize the Palestinians than actually
attempt to humanise what you don't fully understand.