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Would they tell us? religion debate

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Belly,
Church has no products that produce income. Many of its services as to support the destitute and helpless. Tax is only payable on income produced from sale of services or product. Next you will want Schools, Colleges, Unions and those that give money as gifts to pay tax because they receive fees or gifts. The staff including the clergy pay tax like the rest of us. What do you want taxed? Tax has been paid by the people on the money given. The Church is these persons corporate meeting for fellowship and social care as a club or union. This is the sort of logic that would ask for tax from a sick person on a meal cooked for them by a friend because the sick person did not buy the ingreedients and it would be deemed as income.

Most Churches support charity giving to 3rd World development. Upon what do you want to apply tax? To do so means Charitable organisations under such a scheme would also pay tax which would mean that their giving would suffer to Government waste.

Charity shop fronts that earn an income from new products should pay GST tax on sales, and I am not sure they already do that. It is the unpaid volunteer workers that help them earn money to support needy families. Your views are ill informed, so I suggest you do some research on taxation law.
Posted by Philo, Thursday, 3 June 2010 8:46:30 AM
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Belly,
Could you please identify how the Church is interferring in your education, politicts and daily life! [An end to interference in education politics and daily life of nonbelievers}.

Please identify how unbelievers conversely would not interfere in the Churches life; since you have already stated you would apply tax law to Charity.
Posted by Philo, Thursday, 3 June 2010 9:43:15 AM
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A J,

Yes you are being paranoid. That definitely isn't George.

Belly,

I sincerely hope this question isn't out of line and I apologise in advance if you find it offensive. But I can't help wondering if a contributing factor to leaving God straight after the girl with the broken arm is because if there is a God then you would have consequences for your actions but if there isn't then it makes no difference. I believe you are a good person and being a part of the group who did that to the girl would be very difficult for a good person's conscience. You presumably got involved with good intentions and then realised how silly you were being and realised in horror what you had contributed to. In atheism atheists would say that an all powerful God should have stopped your group from doing that to the girl or something (perhaps a localised flood?)and you could be further absolved of responsibility. It wasn't your fault but an imaginary God's. If I was to wonder out loud if atheism appealed more as a result of the escape it offered what would you say? The thought has been in my mind for some time.

The other thing I have been wondering is how you feel about Jesus?

If you don't want to answer these questions that is fine. But I thought I'd finally ask in case it is okay with you and it resolved my curiousity.
Posted by mjpb, Thursday, 3 June 2010 10:31:55 AM
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First mjpb my life has changed, remember my education comes daily not formally.
I thought I found God in hard times , I basically want a better world and fell totally.
The broken arm was a small part of my defection, I saw that lady from that long ago thread climb on stage and leave her walking stick behind on leaving.
I knew she had never used one before.
And knew it was a show mans trick often seen in circuses, young fella on horse rope around his waist and a clown pulls his pance down,,, paid well the kid knows to be quite about rehearsals.
Mate not nice but once ham radio operators and 5 times as many radio fans could over hear telephone conversations.
Even now BE WARNED, some of those walk around the house phones can be monitored, as can the baby monitor from outside the house.
I over hear a minister I knew talking about financial gain by being? a minister.
Jesus was a good idea but I have moved on , understand however I live by most of the rules in that book.
Posted by Belly, Thursday, 3 June 2010 5:27:37 PM
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ok I have been taken to task for questioning tax relief for Church's just because they are Church's.
Answer me this friend do you think scentolegists should be tax exempt.
How about the exclusive brethren.
Know any cults you would not want to get it?
What non Christian Church's would you denie tax charges if any.
Soon maybe 50 years soon in the scheme of things the biggest Church in this country , maybe the world right now, is/will be Muslim.
Is there any church you doubt or would not give exemptions to.
You compare apples with pork chops in your display of loyalty to your church or is it to every church and every God?
Posted by Belly, Thursday, 3 June 2010 5:36:09 PM
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>> others had to wait for 43 more years<<
Ha-ha, a mathemaician should know that 1989 minus 1956 is 33, not 43. Apologies.
Posted by George, Thursday, 3 June 2010 6:16:24 PM
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