For the slow to comprehend:

Cubicles remove the sexualisation of the shower room.

This is the same as in unisex bathroom facilities in many institutions.

benq - you're quite right. I think we've now reached the point in this discussion where reason has reached its limit and all that's left is thinly disguised phobia.

Your objective analysis seems pretty spot-on to me. Welcome to OLO, and see you on another thread :)

Pelican,
So you finally admit that the presence of open homosexuals would result in "the sexualisation of the shower room".
That's something at least we can agree on.
Your solution to this problem is to install cubicles.
I think Akermanis' solution is better.
Why should the camaraderie and traditions of the overwhelming majority have to give way to the demands of the 1.5 per centers?

Sexualisation Proxy, I was assuming given the posts here that many men think they will be perved on by gay footballers. That means to them there is some sexualisation whether real or imagined. This is about perceptions thus the private cubicle solution.

I can't believe that the group showering activities of footballers is given such high importance in the culture of football as though the act of hygiene depicts some great testament to trust and to the game. This emphasis on turst did not stop a few footballers coveting another's wife or girlfriend. If I were a married male footballer I would prefer a private cubicle rather than someone trying to seduce my wife.

But yes I think CJ is right, this topic has run it's course.

Proxy, with all your talk of "desexualised zones", you forgot to account for homosexual females. Women's showers would also contain a proportion of females who are homosexual.

The comparison between men/women is a bit strained anyway because females haven't got an equivalent to footy culture, or at least not on that scale. I've never heard of any women getting in a tizz because another female might be gawking. Come to think of it; I've never seen any women gawking at others in change areas.

I think Houellebecq put the case really well.

Antiseptic: Your posts are actually getting to be pretty funny. Like so over the top it's possible you're just presenting a parody of a homophobe (sorta like Dame Edna sending up middle aged; middle class women).

woulfe: haha!! !! Great post. Seriously though, I don't know how you manage to keep your sense of humour.

G'day benq and CJ :)

Hi Pynch :)

I dunno - I reckon Proxy's a pretty good parody of a homophobe too, on the basis of what he posts here.

Mind you, it's hard to tell which is better. There's a fair bit of Bazza McKenzie in our Antieverything.

Enough ;)