I'm always delighted to set you straight on these matters, Boaz. It is a bit unfortunate for you that you have chosen a topic upon which you are so easily exposed.

Your "excuse" that you cited Searchlight doesn't actually help your cause.

"Most of its 40,000 employees lived on the surrounding council estates built from the 1930s onwards."

Which is absolutely true. However, you couldn't know that i) the Ford plant was not in the Barking constituency, ii) that the "surrounding" council estates covered a number of different constituencies.

Incidentally, do you know what a "council estate" in that part of the world looks like? I strongly doubt that you do.

All of which serves as an example to others, as to how you manufacture topics without the least understanding of the real issues, but instead simply manufacture outrage/shock/anger/whatever, to suit your BNP-style agenda.

Talking of which, I notice that you write a whole lot about what others say about the BNP, but fail to use their very own material.

From their election manifesto:

"...indigenous British people are set to become a minority well within 50 years. This will result in the extinction of the British people, culture, heritage and identity. The BNP will take all steps necessary to halt and reverse this process."

All steps necessary.

To halt and reverse this process.

And you were suggesting that Searchlight was somehow exaggerating the issue?

Oh, and the bit about guns?

>>The BNP’s answer to violent crime is to allow every household to have a gun<<

"The right to bear arms is encapsulated in the 1688 Declaration of Rights. Firearms do not kill people; criminals kill people — especially when the innocent people do not possess firearms with which to defend themselves."

And your response?

>>Yep.. quite a scare campaign I'd say and all barefaced lies.<<

You might like to review that judgment, in light of the facts.

Incidentally, have you actually read their manifesto? If not, I suggest you do so.

http://www.general-election-2010.co.uk/bnp-manifesto-2010-general-election

Don't forget the old truism.

If you lie down with dogs, you will wake up with fleas.

Dear Rache

your 2nd last post (without the link) is one where I find myself in fundamental agreement. (about both sides) but add that on some of the HOward issues.. there was a lot of propoganda flying around from the Left which rather exagerated it all. The stupid Coalition did not do well with the children overboard thing.. I've heard some very 'close to the action' accounts which basically accord with what they said but the point I'd make is they didn't NEED to try to politicize that issue.. so it came back as egg on them.

On your link post.. yep..seen it all, and mostly it's anachronistic, dragging up stuff from long ago "National Front" days. If I listed the sins of the Labour party and the corruption and scandal of just the last few years.. the BNP 'sins' would pale by comparison.
Consider this.
Labour gives P18,000,000 to Unite Union for 'retraining union reps' and then the Treausury bloke leaves blunt note "sorry..no money left"

That is an utter disgrace and I would say shows their true lying,scheming, abysmal and 'pig swill' level of character. They put Lesbian BOMBER terrorist supporters in the Equality Commission.. aarggggh.
The BNP are angels when compared. The Nazi stuff is old news..and out of date, well and truly..but hey..it makes good scare campaigns :)

Pericles
I'll take correction on any factual omission or error :) if you will.

Primarily the 'halt and reverse' must be taken in the light of Griffins on record interviews where they have clearly spelt out (it's in the policies too I believe) that 'well integrated/assimilated migrants who embrace British life and culture are welcome"

Also..you might like to reflect on the application of such sentiments to an Aboriginal party... if there ever is one, and would you criticize them the same way ?

I am in awe of your ability to ignore anything that you don't want to hear, Boaz.

>>I'll take correction on any factual omission or error :) if you will.<<

The "facts" upon which you built your original post have all been discredited. All that is left is your - now unsupported - opinion. Yet you sail along as if nothing has changed. Impressive.

But pretty pointless, really.

>>Primarily the 'halt and reverse' must be taken in the light of Griffins on record interviews<<

You are suggesting that the manifesto doesn't actually mean what it says? Fair enough, I suppose, for a political party that doesn't want to be held to its promises. But in this case, I'm pretty sure they mean every word.

All steps necessary.

To halt and reverse this process

>>it's in the policies too I believe<<

If it is, show us.

I took the trouble to give you the URL, after all. All you have to do is read it.

>>Also..you might like to reflect on the application of such sentiments to an Aboriginal party... if there ever is one, and would you criticize them the same way ?<<

That's enigmatic. Which "such sentiments" are you referring to?

As I recall, the Aborigines were here first.

Look, you have plenty of other threads to go and play in, where you have been able to get away with your usual mixture of half-truths and paranoia. I suggest you quit this one before it becomes embarrassing.

Pericles... your idea of me being embarrassed is one of your own making and mind... but let's move on.

My point here is to explore the British electoral situation not support the BNP per se.

I have a serious question for you.. and I would like your considered answer if you don't mind.

-UK DEBT to GDP 68% (approx)

-LABOR gave PS18,000,000 to Unite union while in office (just recently)

-The Treasury bloke left a note for the incoming replacement "Sorry..no money left"

-Labor support has depended on HUGE public spending.

The UK economy depends for 68% of it's income on "Financial Services"
Which is great for the small number of pinstriped suited yuppies who work in it. Manufacturing is going down..down down...and will pretty much be supplanted by Chinese manufacturing.
http://www.ifsl.org.uk/output/ReportItem.aspx?NewsID=50

This leaves a LARGE number of UNemployed workers, and a small number of Pinstripes. (echoes of french revolution?)

If the European Economy faulters.. this will dramatically effect the pin stripes and the capacity of any government to keep all the public spending going.

Given that governments stand or fall on the 'me me me.now now now' mentality... and slogans like 'More Jobs' 'Improved National Health' etc...

How do you see things panning out for UK in the next 5 yrs?
specially as those instruments of "keeping the masses happy" are curtailed in the interests of repaying huge national debt.

This very instructive graph
http://www.ukpublicspending.co.uk/uk_national_debt_chart.html

shows that it is possible to overcome massive national debt, but it took 30 yrs of what must have been austerity. That was THEN..when the UK actually had a lot more going for it. This...is NOW..

ECONOMY WATCH

"The consensus for 2010 has now shifted to flat to negative growth, with the Economist forecasting 1.1 per cent drop in GDP."

Thoughts ?