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Is proposed Mosque at Ground Zero provocative or conciliatory?
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Posted by Proxy, Saturday, 15 May 2010 10:39:50 PM
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The criminal and deceiver should not represent the wider community, so morally there can be no objection other than environmental to the mosque being there. I fail to see what 911 has to do with Moslems, because if we are pointing fingers the U.S. administration at some level helped, a lot. Given that should we stop a church being built in the mosques place?
Posted by sonofgloin, Sunday, 16 May 2010 1:42:39 AM
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Given that second post in the thread I truly must ask myself why am I here?
Why bother. The question is not a bad one, it will never truly get an answer some can believe in. Conciliatory or is it just another place of worship both sides will claim it is the other. Lies are a weapon, often used too, we know surely that not all Muslims are a problem. Far too many however are. It is how ever not ground zero, close but not close enough, now both sides can tell each other it is provocation that drives a new war of words but in fact we let PC and such blind us to one point. A great number of us think with great Passion any religion any at all, has far too much influence on humanity and that we must evolve and not let followers of any faith bind us to fantasy's. And sonofagun you get the order of fantasia for your inferred post. Posted by Belly, Sunday, 16 May 2010 7:22:01 AM
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I think they are feeling very guilty since the truth is slowly coming out.The Muslims had very little to do with 911.I think they had no hand in it all.There needs to be a thorough investigation into not only the towers but building 7 186m tall,which came down in a controlled style demolition.Vey few people know about WTC 7.It took 6 yrs to put out a report on it.
Prof Niels Harrit along with Aust Dr Frank Legge and 7 other scientists,produced a peer reviewed paper on nano thermite which has not been challenged.Nano thermite military grade explosive was found in the dust and rubble of 911. Prof Harrit will be in Sydney 17/7/10 @ the Mitchell Theartre.Syd Mechanical School of Arts. 280 Pitt St Sydney. Admission free but a donation of $10.00 is requested. For further edidence see http://www.ae911truth.org/ I shall say no more.Make up your own mind. Posted by Arjay, Sunday, 16 May 2010 10:43:54 AM
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Dear Proxy,
This is a decision that only New Yorkers can make. We should leave it up to them to do so. I do have a question though - will the mosque and cultural center blend in architecturally with the surrounding buildings (i.e. will it look like a mosque or simply like any other building in the area?), and will it be in the line of vision of ground zero? Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 16 May 2010 12:42:32 PM
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Are we going to judge all Muslims by the actions of a few militants. Christians in the main, are not judged for the atrocities committed by others in the name of Christianity - why don't we offer the same rights to Muslims (or any other group).
America is a secular nation built by immigration, as such there will be a number of different religions in residence. Where the Churches, Mosques, Synagogues are built is a matter for planning authorities in those States. A Mosque near the ground zero may go a lot further to ease tensions and interfaith tolerance than an adverserial approach. According to the links below the Imam involved was instrumental in establishing the Cordoba Initiative to ease tensions and called for greater understanding betwen the faiths. As for the Muslim Brotherhood and terrorism - there are laws and enforcement bodies employed to prevent and apprehend terrorism - that won't change. In fact, tolerance and acceptance might turn out to be the greatest deterrence. People don't tend to terrorise if they have dignity and respect. http://www.cordobainitiative.org/ http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2010/05/06/2010-05-06_plan_for_mosque_near_world_trade_center_site_moves_ahead.html Posted by pelican, Sunday, 16 May 2010 2:08:52 PM
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The developer of the site claims that his project is an attempt to encourage understanding between followers of different faiths.
Yet the same man has life-long ties to the Muslim Brotherhood, which has the stated aim of "destroying the miserable house of the West from within".
Should the mosque development be allowed in the interests of increased understanding or rejected as an affront to the relatives of the thousands who were killed on 9/11?
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-ground-zero-mosque-developer-muslim-brotherhood-roots-radical-dreams/?singlepage=true