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Is proposed Mosque at Ground Zero provocative or conciliatory?

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Foxy, Proxy is the latest incarnation of HermanYutic, KMB etc.

ALGOREisRICH is the latest incarnation of BOAZ_David, Polycarp, no_THIS_ismeBD etc.

I hope this helps. If either of them was honest they would have answered your question.
Posted by CJ Morgan, Thursday, 20 May 2010 7:24:49 AM
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Foxy,
You appear to be stating that any decision made by anybody of authority anywhere should not be questioned.
Or is permission to comment an inverse function of distance and degree of consensus?
Please explain.
Would you accept as valid the opinion of an ex-Muslim woman who is now a resident of New York?
http://www.hudsonny.org/2010/05/mosque-at-ground-zero-equals-victory.php
Posted by Proxy, Thursday, 20 May 2010 9:11:42 AM
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Dear AG,

The difference between Israel and
the New York City Council should be
obvious to you. As should the reasons
for why we need to be concerned
about the affairs of one and not the other.

Dear Proxy,

You should really analyze the situation in
New York City. And make a more intelligent
summation of the facts involved. The New
York City Council voted unaanimously for
the proposal. They represent the Community
and its people
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 20 May 2010 10:46:54 AM
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Dear Foxy

New York... WTC attacked in 1993 attacked on 9/11 2001

Israel.. attacked on more occasions than I care to remember.

Difference ?

Councils NEVER represent "the people"..they represent political and social interest groups..

In order to get elected they 'posture' themselves as caring for the downtrodden.. hmm like Margaret Hodge the Labour Member in UK who almost weeps when talking about the downtrodden unfairly treated marginalized lot.. and the poor workers .. and guess what.. she is the RICHest woman in the Labour party with a personal fortune of over 50 million pounds or thereabouts. (PS..her brothers steel company is worth over 200 million pounds and guess what.. most of his investments/expansion this year will be 'outside' the UK. way2go representing 'the people'.

Here is how she 'represents' the people
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Hodge#Child_abuse_controversy

"SPIN" and broad vague promises get people elected.. 'sloguns' etc. but seldom is it 'represnting the people'. They definitely represent 'some' people.. but 'which ones' is the key.

OOOOH.. just remembered..here is another :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angela_Mason

WOW.. not bad.. from 'almost' convicted terrorist bomber... to Labour Equalities commissioner ? :)

Ah yes.. 'Councilors (Politicians) represent the people'....

After all..the evidence is right there before us :)
Posted by ALGOREisRICH, Thursday, 20 May 2010 12:11:37 PM
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Dear AG,

We're talking at cross purposes here.
These are two separate issues.
I won't go into human rights issues,
or the history of the Israeli/Palestinian
conflict. There's no need.

As I've written in my other posts - this
matter is for the people of New York City
to resolve. It is not an international issue.
But a question of real estate.
With Israel it's a different matter - the
humanity of Palestinians should be of concern
to us all.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 20 May 2010 2:25:07 PM
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Up to the old tricks, I see ALGOREisRICH. Didn't take long, did it?

>>[Angela Mason] not bad.. from 'almost' convicted terrorist bomber... to Labour Equalities commissioner ?<<

(Do you mind if I go back to calling you Boaz, by the way - so much easier to type.)

So, what do we have here?

Innuendo - tick.

As far as you are concerned, she was obviously guilty back then, when in her twenties she was tried as part of the Stoke Newington Eight. Am I right?

This was the Angry Brigade we are talking about, don't forget. Their rampages through the length and breadth of the UK yielded but one minor injury, but got four people ten-year sentences. A piece of quaint British media-fuelled paranoia, treating the Keystone Cops as if they were a death squad.

What else...

Dark hints of evildoings - tick.

Ah, yes - the lady was awarded first the OBE, then the CBE, for her services to... uh oh. Gay rights.

No wonder you are upset, Boaz. We all know your feelings on THAT topic, don't we? Short of being a founder member of NAMBLA, there's no greater sin in your book, is there.

Anything else?

Veiled allusions to a thoroughly broken society...

>>Ah yes.. 'Councilors (Politicians) represent the people'<<

...suggesting, of course, that they do no such thing.

Newsflash. Those you have mentioned do not represent you, Boaz. And they are probably exceedingly glad that they don't have to.

It's refreshing to see that you bring all your old prejudices back with you. A tribute to all that is stable and predictable in this world.

So, do tell. Are you also no_THIS_ismeBD?

How did you pull that trick?
Posted by Pericles, Thursday, 20 May 2010 3:03:45 PM
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