I knew arjay, the second I saw your post the thread was dead.
I am unsure just why you thought you must post it,or why you think it was other than unacceptable.
I have come back only to ask why some one has not started a thread about phoney Tony Rabbott?

Belly, my politics is not party based, but issue based. I was
a Hawke, Keating, Costello supporter, never a Howard supporter.

I don't try to predict the future, but do take notice of the past.

I learnt out of the last WA election, how voters vote against a
Govt, when they have had a gutful. Alan Carpenter was a smart fellow,
his Govt simply lost touch with the people. All these grandiose
plans and schemes for the city, regional areas missed out.

The liberals hardly had an opposition. Buswell had his scandals,
they had to drag Barnett back from his planned retirement, he had
already given up his seat. Carpenter was kicked out and Barnett
won! All on the back of the regional vote.

That is why I think your comparison does not matter, as much as
you think it does.

Right now, the point has arrived where Rudd is doing some serious
damage to Australia's future, with his super mining tax. That is just
one, of a list of many.

I actually had some hope for Rudd when he won office, thinking that
a smart fellow would see reason. But its not happening Belly and
I really am at the point of saying that this fellow has to go,
before he stuffs the country even more. The super mining tax
was the last straw. I don't care if a drovers dog replaces him,
if he's no good, we'll get rid of him too

yabby truly I think you are wrong.
My lifetime love of the ALP has not blinded me.
Rudd within the party long before his leadership was known as one who was in love with himself.
He however teddy bear looks clean appearance had a task few could carry out.
Unite a party that had fed on its self, that dreadful man, Simon Crean, had kicked every thing he once stood for out the window.
I ducked and weaved far better than I ever did on the football field to get away from the man.
At Goulburn state ALP conference he made a bee line for me I hid in the poker machine room,won $60
Crean helped Latham kill my party, a couple of dills.
I got it wrong I fell for Lathams lies went daily to his web page totally blind sided by his fake front.
On his election day I shook hand with the Nationals booth captain at 8.10 am congrats on your victory and watch my party fall apart.
Kim, what a man IF he had lead that day?
Well we found in fighting and fools had destroyed our hopes and dreams Crean in putting the crown on Latham? never ever forgive them both.

The ALP just like any party has some grubs in it, look this morning at QLD and NSW.
Rudd united his party, set out to get in office, lets be honest he bought conservatives to him.
He too bought failures from with in, Jenny Macline Peter Garrett and that fool who got caught in his relation ships with China.
Pink bats? stupid unforgivable but is it Rudd's fault?
Health can you truly see the senate and states are standing in the way of a better system.
ETS it is poor form for rabbott to forget without his stance we would have one in place.
How much yabby do you know about super tax.
Do you know our returns from Australia's minerals has fell about 20% in the last 20 years.
Are you convince it is 40% on all profit? surely you understand it is not?
Do you understand some of the tax will be used to build roads rail ports infrastructure for? the mining industry!
Look truly look at Abbott, see if you are not blind he can not be trusted, look at his whole history his statements from all his parliamentary life.
He can not be trusted his party is now uncovered as it truly is a fraud lies not policy's grow in the party room.
Within a month a tax plan will come out of this storm in a tea cup, one that miners will not complain about.
yabby mate do you understand one mine owner is in big trouble and blind siding us all with his lie that Rudd is his problem.

Belly do you understand that the Commonwealth will compensate miners whose projects fail to succeed under this legislation. Give me a mining license, Im going prospecting.

Belly, as it happens I know all about the new mining super tax,
I've made it my business to inform myself. As an investor in shares
I also know how mining companies think and why they think as they
do.

The Govt might be full of good intentions, but the fact is that
none of them know much about business. Tanner is claimed to know
the most, he has an arts degree.

Good intentions are simply not enough, for in the real world,
things turn out very different. As was pointed out by sonogloin,
the Govt wants to bankroll 40% of mining projects when they fail.
Do you know what happens when Canberra starts to dish out tens of
millions of $? There will be rorting everywhere, as always happens
when Canberra throws money around.

The big winners from all this will be the Chinese. For they can
get into projects cheaply, use our Govts money to develop mines,
then transfer price their profits out of Australia, little or no
tax paid, profits are made in China. The Aussie taxpayer will
get the rough end of the pineapple. That is the real world!

The most efficient global miners, will look at their global portfolios
and invest elsewhere. I remind you that the 40% super tax is on
top of the 30% company tax.

Belly, if you were being taxed at 58%, ie more then half your
income, I bet your first reaction would be to work less. Its common
human behaviour and has been so around the world.

Now what this Govt is going to do is to clobber the best and most
efficient miners and dish it around, open to widespread rorting.
You'll be amazed how creative accountants can rort this kind of
scheme.

Frankly, they have no idea what they are doing right now and they
are basically stuffing the country and its major cash cow, which
has kept the place afloat, since it got off the sheep's back when
the sheep croaked it.