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Insulation Bungle, Labor and the Unions

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What makes anyone think that the insulation risks only came into being at the time of the government's insulation grants? Or is this to be just another political beat-up with an election on the way?

Both sides of government have been complicit in turning a blind eye to the corner-cutting, shoddy work and other abuses that are rife in the building industry. There is no compulsion whatsoever for builders and tradespeople to comply with the Building code, Australian Standards or manufacturers' installation recommendations. For electrical installations, the routine inspection of wiring in new houses and for major electrical work was dispensed with years ago tom provide cheap savings and should be reinstated.

Among other factors, it is the relentless rolling building boom caused by an over-enthusiastic immigration policy that results in the lack of skilled and properly supervised workers, low standards and shoddy work. Of course neither side of government has been all that interested in training young Australians or in retaining or retraining older skilled workers but that is another reason for upping the 'skilled' immigration numbers, as Rudd and Abbott would agree (but never admit to the electorate).
Posted by Cornflower, Sunday, 9 May 2010 3:44:08 PM
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Another issue which i find hypocritical of the unions is their new campaign regard workers rights.

I would have thought that even though workers rights are important, the safety of workers should be paramount and any policy that does not meet this should be attacked.
But then again the unions attacking the labor party over the deception that has occured would not happen.

Jobs for the workers at the expence of safety is a disgrace, as it has been said there is a extreme issue of danger.

Even under workchoices, workers could go out on strike if they knew or though it was dangerous but this government failed to mention the extreme danger.
Posted by tapp, Sunday, 9 May 2010 4:18:11 PM
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I regret that unions are being flogged yet again.
Both sides have blood, workers blood on their hands.
A knowledgeable person would know unions always fight for workplace safety.
And that both sides of politics are not letting unions get as much say as they once had.
And that standards in the building industry, under Howard and Rudd are policed poorly because unions are no longer free to do it.
However just for a second, consider if shonks did the work, caused deaths, who would work cover charge first?
The contractor No matter how bad had no right to kill his/her workers.
TAPP, Australian Peoples Party stood as an independent, got position one on the ticket, and had zero effect on the results.
Firmly kicking unions and workers some what blindly, blaming them for bad workmanship is strange untrue and of little use in investigating just who beside the minister should go.
Work cover? useless group in no way any help with safe work places until after a death.
Posted by Belly, Sunday, 9 May 2010 6:51:27 PM
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Once again belly you got it wrong but this is what you do.

I ran as an independent, yes no 1 on the ticket got about 2500 vote and i was proud.
I was proud that i stood up to represent the people of charlton and not a political party.
And yes as you can see on the unions ad on telly having a go about workchoices, not about the incompetent labor ministers or the dudd rudd, oh no cannot do that.

Just like when beaconsfield happened unions blamed the liberals for these men being in the mine, when in fact since there was a safety issue they should have been on strike, and now labor government running the scheme but takes no responsibility for it.

The government is responsible as they did know that there was extreme danger and faults but hey the unions will just suck it up.

One thing belly at least i fight and say what i think and not just roll over and do as the masters say.

I am still wondering regarding the BER about how much of that money will automatically go into labor coffers by way of donation.

Stuart Ulrich
Independent.
Posted by tapp, Sunday, 9 May 2010 7:20:24 PM
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Yes Tapp, similar union 'non-intervention' is being witnessed in QLD with the pay debarcle of the health workers.

Hardly a single mention from the union.

Obviously they don't want to rock the boat, esspecially as Mr Dud is nearing an election. That is if he had the balls to call one.

Perhaps belly can shed some light on why the unions are keeping 'tight lipped' about this outrageous situation, essecially when Anna Lie is off touring the world, along with her party goers, all on first class fares.
Posted by rehctub, Sunday, 9 May 2010 10:43:13 PM
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I got nothing wrong TAPP, and rechtub do you wish to be seen as some one who understands anything?
On first running across you here TAPP I found some interest and went to your Webb page.
At that time, you actively tried to recruit to your party.
Your post history, well worth a read, made no secrete you ran a party.
Now you could not get it up and running,,,so ran as an independent.
Stuart you did not do not represent those people,even with the donkey vote you did not win a seat never will.
I am aware if things others may just guess, but you live in a world that does not exist, are no judge of me,unions or politics.
Your charge against unions/labor at Beconsfield are at best, an invention, few understand often your slings and arrows are aimed at me.
It is true is it not that another once poster here got information about me and my workplace and used it against me?
KNOW TAPP your trade unionist father would have told you, no party no union gets it right all the time.
NO ONE USED Beconsfield to charge anyone, two great union leaders went and held the hands of miners and family's while I and a thousand others held my breath and sometime failed to hold my tiers back.
You do your self no good in ranting,rechtub please , just read TAPP post history, click on the little man under his post, then come back and tell me why you support him.
At every union meeting I ask, tell me what you think not what you think I want to hear.
Truth TAPP can not be defeated by hate and rubbish.
Posted by Belly, Monday, 10 May 2010 6:02:41 AM
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