You should know better by now, Arjay, it's a great shame that you don't.

>>Pericles,you are not that stupid.911 was an inside job.The scientific facts attest to this.<<

Not a single scientific fact attests to your theory, Arjay. It is no more than rampant speculation.

>>You haven't a hope in hades of disproving the scientific facts even on WTC 7<<

In your opinion. In mine, there are no scientific facts to disprove. Only, as I said, merely blindly anti-government innuendo.

>>You have faltered at every step in past debates on 911 and are just here as nuisance value to try and discredit others with whom you disagee.You are intellectually dishonest.<<

You are fully entitled to your opinion, Arjay, and I'm sorry if my presence here makes you nervous and uncomfortable. But I have the exact same right to my views, and to express them, as you have.

As far as I am concerned, no-one has even come close to demonstrating that 9/11 was a conspiracy by the US government against its own people. Furthermore, as I have pointed out to daggett on a number of occasions, there is no evidence of anyone actually taking part in the cold-blooded murder of their fellow-Americans. Given that there is no discernible motive for the act in the first place, recruiting highly-skilled saboteurs to murder innocent civilians would not be accomplished without leaving some clues.

But I accept that I am wasting my time trying to convince you of anything. By the same token, you should accept that you are not going to persuade me that there is a vast world-wide conspiracy under way, and that everything that you see around you every day points to it.

However, I am not going to stand idly by and watch you regurgitate every one of your wacky ideas, without exercising my right to respond.

Have a great day. And try not to worry so much. They're not really out to get you, you know.

An interesting and pertinent article from "The Drum":

<< Evidence is overrated when you're a conspiracy theorist

Stephan Lewandowsky

3 May 2010

Why would anyone believe that Prince Phillip is running the world drug trade? Why do some people believe that NASA faked the moon landing? Why is the internet abuzz with claims that 9/11 was an "inside job" of the Bush administration?

Conspiracy theories are part and parcel of modern life and some people clearly find their allure irresistible.

The nature of conspiracy theories and their ultimate fate is reasonably well understood by cognitive scientists, who have identified three core properties. >>

http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/stories/s2888700.htm

I daresay it will be lost on the likes of Arjay, daggett and other conspiracy nuts who most need to read it.

CJ, thanks for the article.

Even though does serve only to confirm your status as a fully paid-up nark for the New World Order, bending to the will of the secret cabal of international banksters.

Should we perhaps work on our secret handshake next?

Pericles, CJ Morgan

Ever wonder why evidence to the contrary just seems to strengthen some people's weird beliefs.

Why NO amount of evidence can shake a creationist or believer in UFO abductions?

Perhaps this can shed some light on the mystery.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/may/01/bad-science-election-smears

On a serious note, didnt the war against Lebanon raise an interesting question, that of a proportional response in conflict.
Specifically, that the Lebanese had more limited resources, such as firing dodgy rockets indiscriminately into the Israeli suburbs. Whereas, the Israelis have helicopter gunships and well resourced intelligence agency. Would it have been fairer to simply fire indiscriminately into the Lebanese suburbs with dodgy rockets as a response?
Unfortunately, both sides have god on their side. To religious folks, the real estate is very high value in that neck of the woods. There's a lot of oil in the area, and a lot of highly strung Medterranean folks. We could talk about it forever, mostly because they will be fighting over one thing or another forever.

Re does Israel control the U.S.
The state of Israel is really the sum of its parts to a greater degree than most nations on earth. What I mean is that even though Israel is a secular state the binding of the nation is not the geographical land mass, not even the commonly spoken tongue, it is the Jewish religion itself. A religion that has bound a scattered nation for two thousand years, it's a genetic club for want of a better descriptive. During WWII the Americans did not help the Jews of Europe to any great degree. But post war the influence of powerful rich Jews certainly helped Congress to consider Israel favorably. The other factor of the post war era was the Soviets backing of the majority of Arab states. We have witnessed fifty years of this power play between the U.S and the Soviets (if you back one side I back the other. With the frosty start of the Obama administration with Israel I do not believe it is a "political party" issue. Census shows that the Jews of the U.S. vote 50/50, but the influential Jews vote Republican along with the orthodox Jewry. This change of guard may be at the basis of the frosty start to U.S. / Israeli détente.