Dear Proxy,

Just a reminder:

Hatred, bigotry and intolerance
are not Christian values.

Like so many of your ilk, Proxy, you cannot resist being just a smidgeon misleading when you mount your favourite whack-a-mozzie hobbyhorse, adding just a tinge of exaggeration along the way.

>>Ask yourself, why is the Wales government spending £25.3 million to combat honour related violence, female genital mutilation and forced marriage?<<

One obvious answer is, that they are doing no such thing.

Even the article you refer us to will tell you this. You should read your own propaganda.

"The Strategy includes a number of initiatives and additional funding of £1 million is being made available to deliver these, taking the total budget to £4.7 million for 2010."

That's not even close to your figure.

You would also notice, if your agenda hadn't blinded you, that the crimes you cite are but a tiny part of the entire programme, which includes:

"A new project to tackle prostitution and trafficking in North Wales

Increasing funding so that all One-Stop Shops in Wales receive support

Developing a national training strategy to ensure that professionals in all sectors recognise and know how to deal with violence against women and the potential impact on children

Continuing to fund on going publicity campaigns focused on challenging attitudes

Consulting on the inclusion of issues relating to violence against women in the Personal and Social Education Framework

A stronger focus on forced marriage, honour based violence and female genital mutilation issues including training, expanding existing education programmes, and publicity [Aha! There it is!]

Providing financial training for key staff working in refuges and independent domestic abuse advisors to enable them to offer well informed financial advice to victims

Working with NUS Cymru to develop a multi-media campaign on personal safety for students on campus settings

Working with British Transport Police to improve the protection available to women on rail transport and railway stations."

So do tell, Proxy, why you chose to tell us that the Welsh Government is "spending £25.3 million to combat honour related violence, female genital mutilation and forced marriage", when you know perfectly well that you were simply strirring up fear and loathing?

No Foxy,
They are Islamic values.
I can't express it any better than the Koran and Hadith:
* Infidels are your sworn enemies (Sura 4:101).
* Be ruthless to the infidels (Sura 48:29).
* Make war on the infidels who dwell around you (Sura 9:123, 66:9).
* Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day (Sura 9:29).
* Strike off the heads of infidels in battle (Sura 47:4).
* If someone stops believing in Allah, kill him (al-Bukhari 9:84:57).
* Take neither the Jews nor the Christians for your friends (Sura 5:51, 60:13).
* Never be a helper to the disbelievers (Sura 28:86).
* Kill the disbelievers wherever we find them (Sura 2:191).
* No Muslim should be killed for killing an infidel (al-Bukhari 1:3:111).
* The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His messenger will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land (Sura 5:33).

pericles,
Now that I've got your attention:
What's a reasonable cost to Western society of importing Islamic practises such as honour related violence, female genital mutilation and forced marriage?
£25.3 million is too high for you to tolerate
but, say, £1 million is okay?

Interesting that our sockpuppet troll began this silly thread with a claim about "free speech" being threatened, yet I see no evidence of restriction of his "right" to vilify Muslims - even when based on a bald-faced lie, as demonstrated by Pericles above.

Mind you, it might be one reason that he changes his name so regularly. What an exciting life he must have.

Dear Proxy,

By far the majority of Muslims today
live their lives without recourse to
violence. The Koran is like a pick-and-mix
selection. If you want peace, you can find
peaceable verses. If you want war, you can find
bellicose verses... the same goes for the Bible.
Both Christianity, just as much as Islam,
teaches people that unquestioned faith is a
virtue.

However, I can see that you're on a roll,
and will only see evil in the religion of
others, not in your own.

Voltaire got it right long ago:

"Those who can make you believe absurdities,
can make you commit atrocities."

So did Bertrand Russell:

"Many people would sooner die than think.
In fact they do."

If at first you don't succeed
Blame a Minority!