pax,

This has nothing whatsoever to do with race.
It has everything to do with the true nature of Islam.

Vijay Kumar says it so much better than me:

"The Islamization of America should be the primary concern of Americans because Islamic imperialism poses an existential threat to the US and all mankind.

America was conceived as a free constitutional republic that is of the people, by the people, and for the people. Islam was conceived as a totalitarian theocracy that is of Islam, by Islam, and for Islam. The Quran is the antithesis of the United States Constitution. They are diametrically opposed. I don’t say that as some Hegelian abstraction: I mean that these two documents are ideological opposites of each other in their most basic purposes and goals.

The purpose of our Constitution is to secure and guarantee to all people the greatest possible freedom. The purpose of Islam is for all people to submit to Islam, and only Islam—not just spiritually, but politically and secularly, in every aspect of law and life.

These two purposes could not possibly be in greater opposition.

Our constitutional republic is built upon the foundation of separation of church and state, with a representative form of government that derives all of its power from the will of the people, framed by a Constitution that is the supreme law of the land.

Islam is built on a foundation of church and state being one, an inseparable autocratic form of government that derives all of its power solely from the will of Allah, framed exclusively by Islamic law—which Islam holds to be divine, supreme, and immutable.

So the danger that Islam poses to America is that Islam, at its core, is ideologically at war with our Constitution. It is a declared war against everything our Constitution stands for. This is a war of polarized ideologies, and they are irreconcilable.

Every conflict we have with Muslims and Islamic nations everywhere around the world arises from that one very simple fact. All other “explanations” are wrong, and so lead to no solutions, only endless turmoil."

http://www.faithfreedom.org/wordpress/?p=9682

Really? Do you really want to offer America as an example of what we should strive to imitate? Why doesn't that surprise me. Islamic Imperialism? I think you are the one who is mixing religion with politics. I think you should investigate the history of Turkey, perhaps research a little bit about Mustafa Kemal Ataturk and what he fought for in Turkey. The examples you give I can counter with just as many examples of Christian fundamentalism and as far as Imperialism goes I don't even want to begin.

How do you relate this with Islam, a spiritual and religious belief? And why do you insist on discussing issues that are cultural and political not religious? I am not here to justify my belief system nor challenge yours. What I challenge is your comment that because I am Muslim I do not represent Australian culture. My grandfather fought for this country, my brother has published books in this country, my father ran a successful business and my mother raised 6 children, who in turn have raised their own children. I have achieved academically and volunteered for many years in various community organisations. Can you please address your comments and explain how my VALUES are not Australian. Furthermore, what are your credentials to be the sole judge to what count as Australian Values?

Nice to see pax sticking it up our resident sockpuppet troll :)

Proxy you talk about freedom of religion and yet continue to offend my spiritual beliefs and intelligence with ridiculous, narrow minded political propaganda. So, when you discuss freedom of speech and freedom of religion you should include....so long as the religion is Christian and the speech does not challenge your views.

pax,
<<What I challenge is your comment that because I am Muslim I do not represent Australian culture.>>
<<Can you please address your comments and explain how my VALUES are not Australian. >>
Are you addressing me or Kactuz who said:
"Pax, If you are Muslim, your values are not those of Australia or the West."?
I never said that your values are not Australian.
I quoted Vijay Kumar to convey the point that Islam is antithetical to Western civilization.
I can't say it any better than him. Read the link above.
Islam is a socio-politico-religio ideology.
Islam teaches global Islamic supremacy.
Islam teaches submission by all to Allah.
Islam teaches death to the infidel. Literally.
I don't know whether you're practising taqiyyah or you are just delusional as to what Islam actually teaches.
Islamic values, as stated in the Koran, the Hadith, the Sunna and in Sharia Law are in opposition to Australian values.
<<So, when you discuss freedom of speech and freedom of religion you should include....so long as the religion is Christian and the speech does not challenge your views.>>
This is a stunning inversion of the truth.
I am not trying to stop your free speech.
Islam is trying to stop free speech all around the globe.
Using both lawfare, at every level of governance from the UN down,
and death threats to those who criticise Islam or its miserable prophet.
This process is being aided and abetted by dhimmis such as CJ, who even now hasn't bothered reading up on Islam.
As for freedom of religion!
In its 1400 year quest for global submission Islam has been responsible for more misery than any of us can comprehend.
And it continues to this day:
http://www.politicalislam.com/blog/category/bulletin-of-christian-persecution/
It cannot stop until the dangerous ideology of Islam is rejected by all humankind.
"Religion of pax".
What a travesty.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! You poor disillusioned fool.