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To all of those who are feeling jaded with the current political parties!
The Climate Sceptics Party is broadening its base and changing its name. It wants to provide a vehicle for such as you who are tired of smoke and mirrors as well as firm committments that disappear.
Go to Climate Sceptics Party and contact President Leon Ashby for more info.
Posted by phoenix94, Monday, 12 April 2010 4:09:48 PM
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Electricity prices
There should be enough references for you for the moment

http://www.smh.com.au/national/anguish-as-electricity-prices-set-to-rise-again-20090520-bfsc.html
http://news.theage.com.au/breaking-news-national/electricity-prices-to-rise-by-up-to-64-20100318-qgk9.html
http://www.euaa.com.au/
http://www.farnorthcoaster.com.au/category/business/
http://www.futuresustainability.com.au/news_details/news/electricity_price_to_rise_under_renewable_energy_plan
http://www.2ue.com.au/blogs/2ue-blog/rage-against-electricity-rises-add-your-name-to-our-petition-against-the-nsw-electricity-rise-and-well-send-your-comments-on-to-premier-keneally/20100319-qjgu.html
http://www.dynamicbusiness.com.au/articles/articles-news/martin-ferguson-electricity-prices-1239.html
http://www.openyoureyesnews.com/category/environment/page/2/
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/electricity-bills-could-rise-by-more-than-250-a-year/story-e6frf7kx-1225765367552
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/electricity-to-rise-55-a-quarter-from-july-1-20090609-c250.html
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw-act/secondary-shock-as-cost-passed-on/story-e6freuzi-1225852041295?from=public_rss
http://www.bordermail.com.au/news/local/news/general/city-may-have-to-lift-rates/1781704.aspx
http://www.anz.com/documents/economics/Economic%20consequences%20of%20an%20ETS%20August%2008.pdf
http://rouse-hill-times.whereilive.com.au/news/story/electricty-prices-to-soar/
http://money.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=1028844
Posted by tapp, Monday, 12 April 2010 6:30:51 PM
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It gets worse.
It seems that ETS schemes are easy to rort.
The ETS scheme in Europe has collapsed. The price fell from E30 to E1
over night. It seems that a number of recycled credits were inserted
into the system from Hungary. The dealers do not know which are real
credits and which are fraudulent.

If the generators in Victoria are unable to pass on the cost of the
indulgences they will close the power stations, or rather the banks
will close the stations.
Martin Luther where are you ?

I believe this problem has not yet been solved.

Unless the Federal government is able to find a way to make the ETS
scheme fiddle proof it should not be implemented.
The brokers are all ready to start dealing in derivatives of the
credits and make billions in the handling of them.
There are even voluntary credit dealings available now !
Amazing !

Looks like the pink bats all over again.
Posted by Bazz, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 7:50:36 AM
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Imagine an economic system where users paid more for fossil derived energy and less for clean sustainable energy sources.

Imagine how fast the transition to renewables and clean air/waterways/earth would be.

I know I'm just a dreamer, but I'm not the only one.

Apologies to John Lennon.
Posted by Severin, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 9:42:17 AM
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Yes, well dream on. It is a matter of scale.
Even the best hope, geothermal, using the radioactive heat from the
earth, will take a long time to get cranked up to scale but while there
is another site in the Hunter Valley I can't see it providing anywhere
near the amount of electricity we use now inside 20 years.

I have just finished reading Richard Heinbergs book Blackout and he
does not give much hope of not needing coal before global peak coal
around 2025.
All the talk about wind and solar is just talk unless someone invents
a storage medium for electricity that will scale up.
Posted by Bazz, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 2:01:19 PM
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I am finding a direct link to K Rudd a little hard to make. Had the ETS gone through then yep the evidence trail is good. Electricity is a state based operation, most electricity networks around Australia like the majority of our infrastructure is stuffed. To fix it costs money. We as Ausies pay generally speaking stuff all for our energy requirements. Electricity, fuel and gas are all very cheap in this country so when we consider that all this work must be done to improve the networks then the price must rise, its logic. One of the big problems we have in this country is we are so used to having what ever we want and stuff the pollution and waste of how we get it, we also developed all this in the first place under a socialist government when all these services we supplied. Lets not forget we had to go to the greed based free market globalisation way of doing things, well its time to pay. stop complaining.
Posted by nairbe, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 3:26:12 PM
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