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TBC

Following your train of thought, I was absolutely grateful that my dentist was a Muslim when I needed urgent root canal work one Easter a few years back. Not because he believed in Allah (couldn't give a rat's) but his surgery was open.

Which is a part of the point WAU keeps missing, atheists don't really care what a person's religion is; what we take issue with is when it crosses into politics, education, tax-exemption, health and the well-being of others - children being a priority on that list.

For the final time: ANY organisation that covers-up illegal activity is not above the due process of law.
Posted by Severin, Sunday, 18 April 2010 12:35:43 PM
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I think Severin, you and I, and Oliver maybe, have forgotten that great machine owns Canon Law, and that comes direct from their god, so it must be more powerful than the mere law of we mortals.

I'm sure I read somewhere that Canon Law had been invoked somewhere/how to 'deal with' these in-house outrages.

This dual legal system gets a boo! when it's called Sharia Law (good thing too) but because the West 'is Christian' and 'so are all of us', it is seen as being 'commonsense' that this organisation should own its own set of 'laws' and exist as a parallel state-within-a-secular-sate...along with its exalted privileges that allow it to run as an international, mafia like, tax rort.
Posted by The Blue Cross, Sunday, 18 April 2010 1:55:04 PM
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Hello Oliver,
I included the two quotes because I thought they were relevant and interesting. Sorry, if they were not. As for my own opinion, it is spelled out in my former posts (concerning the Canisius College case).

That is all I can say; I certainly do not see any point in countering sweeping statements with other sweeping statements.

If you have evidence of a PARTICULAR case of criminal cover-up (involving or not a bishop), you should report it to legal authorities since only they (not the media) are entitled and able to decide whether there are genuine reasons to prosecute.

[As I said before, he moral - i.e. not legal - perspective is different, and the vast majority of Catholics agrees that the Church - because of its position as a moral authority - is more in a need of penance and atonement than other organisations in a similar situation.]

The letter is a reaction to shocking revelations that the pope apparently was not aware of before, certainly not to that extent. You might look at it as damage control, but it is not important what it says to me since it is not addressed to me.

I usually do not defend Dawkins, however when he says “We should be aware of the remarkable power of the mind to concoct false memories” he certainly does not want to imply that all memories are false.
Posted by George, Sunday, 18 April 2010 10:19:10 PM
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Left out the 'addressing issues of' abuse and paedophilia obviously TBC.

You are another poster on OLO who never seems to respond when asked questions. Surprise! On this occasion you do yourself justice. In all fairness, you are raising one or two innovative concepts in addressing the cover-ups involved in paedophilia which may give some OLO posters incentive to ponder your suggestions.

Best commence another thread if both yourself and Severin wish to continue your anti-christian campaign though......this one may well expire shortly!
Posted by we are unique, Sunday, 18 April 2010 11:54:37 PM
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WAU

I can assure you, that as far as I am concerned, although most OLO threads deal with 'Christianity', a reflection of the dominant religion in this nation-state, I have no time for any of the religions imposing their views on us all.

I do not single Christianity out for the 'special attention' it does for our children, and 'the unchurched' among us.

Whatever slim good may come from religions, much 'evil' squeezes out too. Inevitable really, since it is all 'man-made' and subject to the foibles of humans.

There is nothing 'mystical', beyond the blindness people elect to impose on themselves.

I thought I did answer your question.

Still, life and OLO threads are indeed brief,and I am sure this will expire and we will all move to the next 'major issue' and repeat ourselves there.
Posted by The Blue Cross, Monday, 19 April 2010 9:22:18 AM
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Joseph Ratzinger is the CEO of an organisation that harbours employees who are paedophiles. He should be brought before an interenational court to account for his abuse of power.

And while he's there he should face interrogation for promoting the greatest fraud on earth. Covering up paedophilia is a bad one. Fraud is the big one.

Indoctrinating young children into the belief that the mythic Yahew, the brutal, mysogynistic, unforgiving god of the ancient Israelites and his son, Jesus Emmanuel and a ghost are going to save them from an eternity in hell, must go down as the biggest crime in history.

This fellow is the dangereman of humanity.

Frank Blunt
Posted by Frank_Blunt, Monday, 19 April 2010 10:01:38 AM
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