Proxy, temped but controlled my self, leave it out.
If Christ lived and breathed or ever did his church would ,rightly show bias against many groups.
Those who are as concerned as I am about the church that first bought to the masses Christianity, and its refusal to end this will not see this thread diverted.
Had these priests, not just of the near past but over century's, been ordinary people, this Church would have demanded long prison terms.
We are talking about pedophilia in the Catholic church, but it is no better in any section of the community.
Those who want to defend homosexuality first know , I think as I wish, am not aiming at you but surely start a thread?
No church, no religion, any of them, has more questions to answer than the Catholic church.

Suzeonline

Excellent topic - particularly at a time of self congratulation by the Catholic Church and Christianity in general.

As others have noted, paedophiles will align themselves in organisations that give them access to children be it religion, teaching, scouting, sports or other venues where children congregate.

I fully endorse Oliver's comment:

...surely the time has come where secular law must trump ecumenical law...

This 'special' exemption is an issue that vexes the non-religious community greatly. That one can simply 'confess' and be absolved of the most heinous behaviour is surely one of the greatest hypocrisies of the Catholic Church - an organisation the scores extraordinarily high on doublethink given its attitudes towards women and contraception among other discrepancies.

However this hypocrisy extends into other Christian denominations, Father Peter Jensen used his Easter address this year to condemn people for not believing in god - hardly a crime against humanity which paedophilia surely is.

suzeonline,
I never claimed that all these sick, nasty people were homosexual.
Re-read my post.
I clearly said 80% in the case of priests and 43% in the case of teachers.
It's interesting that the rate of child abuse is actually higher among teacher-students, with extensive cover-ups happening as well.
Maybe the secular issue doesn't get as much airplay because teachers don't hold themselves up to be as holier-than-thou as priests.
Mind you, that's changing as teachers increasingly seek to indoctrinate children with their ideologies.
Or maybe the church is just an easier target?

Proxy,

I would suggest that kernel of the condemnation of abuse by guilty Christian leaders is that they have sex with minors. If adult priest had a consensual relationship with another single adult, homosexual or heterosexual, that would not be significant. Even, perhaps seeing prostitutes, though unsavoury, is not heinous.

Addressing the paedophilia issue requires treating selected Church leaders like MAFIA bosses and drug cartels. Cut of the heads of the organisation. Sure, it is desirable to catch the line perpetrators a after their umpteenth offence, but that is not the same as taking out the Made Dons, whom see to be above secular law and able create the opportunity for multiple offences by not bringing the police and transferring the priests to an environment with a new set of vulnerable children.

The police must be involved as the first offence.

Albeit extreme, perhaps Christian schools with bad track records could be forfeited to the State and placed under secular administration. Is this action so much different to publicans loosing their licenses for serious in-house breaches or street hoons loosing their cars?

All this, of course, has nothing to with freedom believing in god or not believe in god. It is about catching criminals, perpetrators and their minders and placing these disgusting creatures on trial, and, if guity, behind bars for a very long time, preferrably life.

As previously noted, we have diplomatic representation at the Vatican (Tim Fisher). Herein, the PM (and other world leaders) must in the strongest terms push the Pope on the issue. We should downgrade our representation in need and make it clear that the Pope is unwelcome until the Church puts its house in order, or, at least until the Pope is seen to being really trying, rather than issuing the odd apology.

Hmmm, so here we have a poster who acts as though they’re not a Christian, but is anti-abortion, anti-Islamic, homophobic and uses line-breaks for each sentence rather than proper paragraphing.

Well, I’d just like to be the first to say, welcome back KMB/HermanYutics.

‘Proxy’ is a better nick though. I mean, giving yourself a nick that was a play on the term ‘hermeneutics’ and claiming that you’re not a Christian? Sheesh!

I'm not anti-abortion, anti-Islamic or homophobic.
I just tell it like I see it.
I confess that I do enjoy the irony that abortion removes from the gene pool those who are most likely to be genetically predisposed toward abortion.
Some would incorrectly argue that homosexuality operates in similar manner.
I do object however to Islamic attempts to remove Islamophobes from the gene pool.
BTW,
what's a line break?