Severin (you do sound alot like Fractelle)

"Suze, Pynchme (all the women who post on OLO) - thank you for your persistence, because it is only persistence and consistency that will retain our rights to speak our minds."

What would you like? Perhaps we should all stand in the background applauding every time any woman expresses any opinion, like when a one year old says her first words. IMHO, expecting anyone who expresses an opinion to be able to defend it is far more respectful.

The attitude adopted by Pynchme and Suze has a facade of "niceness", but you don't have to dig to deep to see a deliberate effort to find offence and demonise someone. Neither Houllie's turn of phrase nor Anti's condecending tone warranted the dressing down they both received. Accusing anyone who disagrees with any woman of sexism is making quite an attempt to take offence. The vicious attacks on men accused of DV, men who tend to be victims, as well as perpetrators and are often falsely accused, also smacks of wanting someone to look down on.

BTW I agree with Suze about the pill. Community nurses could prescribe them, but they should't be thrown about like jellybeans. For one thing, they don't always work and I'm not just talking about women whose boyfriends want to leave them.

Benk

<<< Severin (you do sound alot like Fractelle) >>>

That's because I am or was Fractelle - as I have already explained on other posts, OLO doesn't allow for resurrection of an old name once an account has been cancelled, which is what I did after becomg quite ill for a time.

Now, you are claiming:

<<< The attitude adopted by Pynchme and Suze has a facade of "niceness", but you don't have to dig to deep to see a deliberate effort to find offence and demonise someone. >>>

I think I'd need more than just a shovel, I'd need a shitload of drugs to even begin to see either Pynchme's or Suze's post as demonising all men. They both write according to both professional knowledge and experience. Nor do they lower themselves to the level of invective that Anti and others repeatedly indulge in.

You'll find no argument from me that some women are total cows, but that doesn't mean that men are all sunshine and light because I think that.

This thread is about the sexual revolution, now some people think it was liberating for women, some don't. Whatever. There is no reason to use this or any other thread to verbally abuse people. None. I find Anti insulting and Houelle childishly puerile most of the time. Occasionally they do make genuine contributions, but I do not enjoy wading through the B/S in case they may have written something worth my time.

So from time to time I am compelled to speak out against their bitter rants, knowing full well the tirades this will provoke. I know they won't or can't change, but that doesn't mean I should retreat and remain silent as women were expected to be not so long ago.

<< Neither Houllie's turn of phrase nor Anti's condecending tone warranted the dressing down they both received >>

What utter bulldust. They deserve everything they cop.

Mind you, they love it - indeed, it's why they come here :)

Dear Severin,

Welcome back!

I had no idea it was you.

I trust that you're feeling better?

'What utter bulldust. They deserve everything they cop.'

Yes indeed! But at least we don't try and pretend we're not dishing anything out like those passive aggressive feminists!

'Mind you, they love it - indeed, it's why they come here :)'

Oh never a truer word spoken CJ!

As I said,

'Antis deliberate insensitivity and the chicks deliberate passive aggressive reaction creates a beautiful dance that makes these gender threads so entertaining. '

I love quoting me.

Foxy,

'had no idea it was you.'

How did you miss it with all the 'excuse me for having an opinion while being female' stuff?