Hearing a few stories about men fighting outside nightclubs around here this week reminded me of the ongoing unfulfilled myths, hypocrisy and unreasonable pressure put on one part of the community by the reactionaries.(eg http://abcchurch.blogspot.com )
Tell me I am wrong , but its suits men to promote the idea but ask any man on the planet (pushy or not) whether they want to marry a girl who is easy. The men boast and the women feel guilty. Are we really looking after our daughters, or in no talk while our kids rage and be raged upon. Noone seems to be gettting what they would really like- hence the fight . Lets have the facts, and not focus on the exceptions. The idea is a curse.

You said: " Noone seems to be gettting what they would really like- hence the fight"

So it's chicks fault the guys fight outside clubs?

...and a blog on BLOGGER as evidence of ignorance written by JOURNEYMANJ and LITTLE JOHN...?

Ummm ya THINK?

The latest rules here are, no hard liquor after 2 am. Surely the damage has been done before 2 am.
Who would want to be drinking hard liquor that time of night.
I think this night club scene is one of drink and drugs, i fail to see the entertainment value in it.
If this is what comes with a free society, do we really need it.
I say a mix of free, with common sense would be more appropriate.
This night club drama is costing us heaps,with property damage, and unsafe streets, i say we would be better off without it.
This is AU we don't have to follow the stupid antics that occur overseas

Good question StG , but blame isn't my game although I am suggesting that women don't go Yes . It takes 2 to tango and my issue is with why our daughters willingly go to such places when in the old days men payed for the pleasure in such areas . Is someone going to say Greer was right in offering her gender more freedom and fulfilment ? Maybe the acceptance of this change of thinking has to do with the fickleness of women and the silence of men? Either way, as every community is saying , the frustrustion on the streets is at fever point and the idea of "Having fun there " is not working .
Let's start at the basics . Would you StG let you daughter (assumming you had one ) go to one of these places? Let someone who would --say so here !

Dear Hanrahan,

You ask, "What has the sexual revolution ever
done for women?"

I think that a new, affluent generation of young
people challenged the traditional norms and values
in many areas of society, sexuality included.

The women's movement arose, demanding changes in
the established relationships of the sexes.
And, importantly at that time a new technology
became widely available: the birth-control pill,
which permitted a separation of the pleasurable
from the reproductive aspects of sexual behaviour.

Today, however, things that were once considered
scandalous, such as open cohabitation by unmarried
couples, X-rated movies, or nudity on the stage,
now arouse far less concern. Opinion polls show
substantial tolerance for diversity in sexual
behaviour, however, they also show a continued
commitment to marital fidelity and a declining
interest in promiscuity.

Researchers agree that increasingly judgements
about right and wrong in sexual matters are based
on the attitude that moral behaviour is that which
involves mutual affection and respect and does no
physical or psychological harm to those involved.

The real question mark hanging over sexual attitudes
and practices today is AIDS. We associate sex with
the most loving, live-giving human impulses. The
equation of sex with death is something our culture is
totally unprepared for, and wrenching changes are
needed to deal with it.

As for violence outside nightclubs - I'm not sure what
the answer to that is - a stronger police presence at
night, earlier closing, heavier fines, education programs,
mates looking out for each other? Or all of these.