Dear Suzi,
When we reject the truth we tend to believe anything.
An example of this is reincarnation. The bible tells me that God made one mold Adam. He then took one of Adams ribs and made Eve. The rest of us come from the union of Adam and Eve, the human race. The bible also tells me Jesus did not come from the loin of Adam but was spoken into existance, the second Adam.
John 1-1 says In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the word was God.
John 1-14 says And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld his glory, as the only begotten of the father, full of grace and truth.
Jesus said in John 14-6 to 10 that he and God were one and his words had the fathers authority.
Under our own understanding we will never know the truth of Gods word
but with God the Holy Spirit's guidance he will lead us into the knowledge of the truth of the bible. The bible is the living word and can't be understood by the carnal mind for because of sin the body or
earthern ware vessel we live in dies and decays back to dirt where as
our spirit or life force goes back to God 4 judgment. Goats BUT and follow the goatherder to the lake of fire, the 2nd death. Sheep know the sheperd's voice and follow and their portion is life for ever or eternity. If you are interested in the truth and not just facts ask God to show you the truth and do not take my word for God doesn't have Grandchildren only sons and daughters and that is why religion is not the kingdom of God but man made. That does not mean that I am against the church but means Jesus must be our saviour {our point of focus} not our denomination

The number one con in the world is religion, even before birth you are conned, in the word of authority of course.
If religion was fairdinkum there would only be one brand of religion.
All brands of religion are at odds with other, wouldn't it be a good world without all this mythical bull.
Deniers of science line up of a sunday only, and clens their soul of the wrong doings of the past week, and make a start on the misdameners of the coming week.
The band of bible bashers that walk the streets with kids, should be publicly flogged, they are under the influence of misguided information.
Fairy tales went out the window years ago, even santa clause only lasts for so long.
Religion persists in the minds of a few, that have not got over their child hood.

That amazing document lawyers hate with a passion, the Australian Constitution was passed by the same percentage of Christians versus Odds sods and bods as exists in Australia today. That is 65% Christian to 35% Satan or Planet or other worshippers. That was the result in the latest census. Look it up for yourself. Of that 35% of non Christians, about 400,000 are Muslims and a couple of hundred thousand are Jewish.

The greatest movement for good in the world is the Church of Jesus Christ. The Australian Constitution modified the Monarchy of England to make it inclusive of the Roman Catholic Australians, by its S 116. That was to make Australia a United Nation of all Christian Religions, and despite their best efforts, the Australian Labor Party could not unseat the lawyer Howard, until they got a Christian Leader. Tony Abbott has a law degree, but probably because he is a Christian, he has never been admitted to the government of Australia. He may have read Luke 11 Verses 46 and 52 where the only profession cursed by Jesus Christ was the lawyers. In 2000 years they have not changed one bit. The Law Society and Bar Association are the monopoly that Paul Keating’s government abolished in 1995, and galvanized lawyers all over Australia to unseat him.

The laws that have come out of Canberra under Paul Keating’s government were enormously beneficial, but the lawyers government represented by John Howard, refused to let them be enforced, and even allowed the seven evil imbeciles on the High Court to take the Queens name off all process issued out of that Court. Royal means from Almighty God.

The Royal Coat of Arms was made to show that the Monarch was a Christian. It is still required to be fixed to every Act and Court Order by S 22 Australian Courts Act 1828 which was not repealed by the Australia Act 1986. Look it up for yourself here: http://beta.austlii.edu.au/databases.html Look up the Constitution in it and all law made since 1900 is posted there. We need a strong Christian leader

runner: "To have an opinion in a democratic country is not against the law or rebellion"

True, I actualy said something to that affect.

"yet to see the Baptist or Hillsong or Salvos or Brethren promoting rebellion against the Government"

Rebellion against the government is quite openly practiced by some religions. The Brethren ... ooo shudder, wow now there is a cult

"devil and his followers likes nothing more than Christians to hide away being to gutless to speak truth."

but he likes those that miss use Christianity to further their own agenda's better, like using His name to justify total de-nuding their land. Or to pum thousands of tonnes of crap into the air each year.

Destroying the environment that He so carefully planed, and so very carefully balanced, but woops he made one mistake, he made us with a free will so we willing destroyed most of his creations,

Maybe we will create our own rapture, the space shuttle kind, so we can go and stuff another planet up.

runner "Both are faith based comments although the Greens try and justify their comments with pseudo science."

there is nothing faith based about theory, I really don't think you have a very good understanding about what science really is. The difference is, your side says "It is not true, our side says it may be true, I know a few say that it is a fact, but any scientist that says anything is a fact, is not a good scientist.

"true science is something that can be observed and proven"

What utter rot, even Einstien said "Prove me right a thousand times, it doesn't mean that I am right, prove me wrong once and I am wrong"

The climate and environment cannot stand to prove you wrong.

My last comment on this is to quote a tactic used by Christians whilst Bible bashing.

They say in regards to believing in the Word of God: "If we are right, your soul will be saved, if we are wrong, you have lived a good clean life"

I say in relation to the carbon emmisions et al: "If we are right, your soul will be saved, if we are wrong, you have lived a good clean life"

>>"true science is something that can be observed and proven"

What utter rot, even Einstien said "Prove me right a thousand times, it doesn't mean that I am right, prove me wrong once and I am wrong"<<

Wybong,

Q. Is the earth round? A. Yes.
Q. Will that ever be proved wrong? A. Not before it gets gobbled up by a black hole.

Q. Are germs agents for disease? A. Yes.
Q. Will that ever be proved wrong? A. Not as long as there is movement on the earth.

Science and observation have shown these questions to have unequivocal answers in the contexts we currently view them in. So, given that, what runner says is perfectly legitimate. However, that's not to presume every scientific question is answerable. Aren't you making the assumption that the scientific question being posed relates to a "known unknown" or "unknown unknown"? While it may be a bit passe for some, don't forget there are "known knowns" too.