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Australia has recently shown itself racist?

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individual: "Left, wrong, same thing" talk about stereo typing.
examinator: to use Don McLean's beautiful lyrics:
"They would not listen, they did not know how.
Perhaps they'll listen now."
Ah but they should know now
"They would not listen, they're not listening still.
Perhaps they never will".
Back to individual's intelligent response.
They remind me of when I was young. I worked at the Aberdeen Abattoirs.
I was on the lamb board, and the first one on the chain.
Do you know how they get the sheep to walk into the slaughter house, they lead in a goat and the sheep follow.

So if left is wrong, then right is right, ah, therein lies the substance of there argument.

We are not wrong because we lie, and I would be the last one to say figures are not fudged sometimes in science.

But to call us all liers, cheats etc based purely on the fact that left is wrong proves that they are running out of gibberish and telling the truth, blind faith in their god the dollar bill, or they believe that the "end days" will be on us before too much damage and they will have been able to wallow in their greed and gluttony.

They are right, because they are right, they are right, right?

Why have you all left!
Posted by Wybong, Monday, 18 January 2010 7:28:37 PM
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"I want to talk about words.
About loving, touching, reaching out
and grabbing words.
Words that spread smooth like picnic butter.
And words that jab hard and suddenly,
leaving your lips stinging and your head ringing.
Words with big round, soft, open vowels.
And words with tight, hurtful little orifices -
like 'sneak,' or ugly, crude words like 'crap.'

If you love your words,
If you try to use them well and
treat them right,
If you respect their function,
If you can see their colour
and feel their Australian textures,
the harsh sun, wide brown land of them,
If you understand their constraints,
If you know their weakness and
are aware of their strength,
There is simply no way you will mis-use them."
(Bryce Courtenay).
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 18 January 2010 8:10:43 PM
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Wybong,
You may think yourself into being right by being left. I don't just think so, I know from daily experience of working with half-wit academic engineers & bureaucrats that the conservative is the more efficient, logic & harmonious way. I can assure you that the so-called lefties & Labor supporters who I work with are the far less competent & relaistic than those with a conservative mentality. You say that I say that the right is right. That is a typical response from a leftie. I never have nor will I ever say the right is right because it isn't. I am saying again, from experience that a conservative is the more responsible person. Lefties on the whole do mean well but as the old proven saying goes, meaning well isn't good enough. The problem I personally find with so-called lefties is the attitude of "better a bad one than none at all" or if you don't like it leave. There's no room set aside for caution & that's why the 95% Labor supporter dominated Public Service is such a useless & hardly affordable gang. I know many decent people who as victims of indoctrination by the Labor dominated education system have became unwitting supporters of the inequality & rort that is our Public Service. To me, that is an unnecessarily not good situation.
Posted by individual, Tuesday, 19 January 2010 6:17:17 AM
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Individual,
There is a propensity on OLO to Label anything that isn't hard core
Capitalism (as practiced today) as pejoratively "left". A vague term at best. In reality many non 'left' attributes are mislabeled thus making the point unclear.
e.g. there is a difference between socialism,communism, communitarianism et al although they share attributes but are not necessarily 'left'

I was trying to pin down exactly what aspect you were referring to.
Referring to the above what you determine as left may not be exclusively so, therefore, is your point about something specific if so what if not how can I be sure you aren't simply miss labeling it.
Posted by examinator, Tuesday, 19 January 2010 11:10:20 AM
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Dear individual,

I don't know many people these days who
are firmly entrenched in being -
"left" or "right." Most people I know -
tend to be somewhere in the middle - and
vote on policies and issues.

Many nowadays shy away from the strictly
conservative side of politics as it represents
the concept of money and power and the ideology of greed
- which leaves no room for social equity, compassion,
or the idea of a fair go for all. Don't forget also
that we have an aging population - that would be
severely affected if things like Medicare - were to
disappear - as well as their other benefits and
support. Many like my mother - would be in dire
straights.

That uniquely Australian quality of, "We're-in-this-
together-and-no-one-should-be-considered-to-be-anything-
other-than-equal," I think is still strongly felt by most
people. Most can't support the politics that believes that
people either sink or swim, and if they sink, well
that's too bad - because welfare is not good for
business.

You criticize Labor - but I've seen the damage done
in Victoria under the Liberal Premier - Jeff Kennett.
Schools were closed and sold off - hospitals were
shut down - libraries re-structured with CEO's
appointed (jobs for the boys) who knew nothing about
libraries at humungous salaries - they did nothing
but sign the paperwork and reap the benefits...

It's easy to criticize and condemn - but we need to
look at the policies and track records - before
making judgements
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 19 January 2010 1:15:16 PM
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Racism is a different thing for different people.My grandson 15 is not a racist because he has aboriginal kids at his school who are in a sort of "gang" that is not his "gang"- he is just ignorant! My father was not a racist because he was for the " White Australia Policy".His actions in teaching the indigenous children at his school with the equalness and compassion for their lives in the 40's and 50's that he always displayed proved that, despite his support for the Government policy of the day.
Posted by DIPLOMAN, Tuesday, 19 January 2010 1:51:57 PM
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