Or maybe Islamic fundamentalism is intensifying because
they're teaching their children to behead infidels.
http://creepingsharia.wordpress.com/2009/12/22/muslim-children-training-for-jihad-video/

WARNING:
The link below shows a child trainee jihadist beheading a captive man.
Do not click on this link unless you have a strong stomach.
http://creepingsharia.wordpress.com/2009/06/05/muslim-child-and-friends-behead-man-while-praising-allah-video/

This is what we are up against.

People who teach young children to behead other people,
while screaming Allahu Akbar,
just like their good book says.

Isn't it comforting to know that all religions are the same.

I'm sure that if we all just hold hands and sing Kumbaya,
then they will reach out to us in peace and goodwill.

Dear foxy,

We would very much like to agree with you that HY “consistently post inflammatory extraneous messages online about Islam”, however, being enlightened people what we say has to be based on evidence and facts.

Three examples come to mind.

i) Pakistan and India became independent countries in 1947. Pakistan was founded on the ideal of a Islamic Republic guaranteeing rights for the minority non-Muslims. Today, the non-Muslim minorities have been massacred and the lives of the remaining few made so unbearable that they have fled Pakistan. Pakistan has become a truly Islamic country where lawlessness reigns. Muslims are killing fellow Muslims because they are deemed not Islamic enough.

Needless to say, Hindu India is way ahead of Muslim Pakistan in EVERY field except for rape and murder.

ii) A recent article in the Spiegel featured Nigeria where the Muslims live in the north and the south, Christians. Not surprising north Nigeria is turning into a lawless, backward and an uninhabitable region. The Muslims are migrating to Christian south.

“The irony in Nigeria is that the north has a greater need for the better-trained experts, doctors and scientists from the south, and yet the lack of culture and persistent acts of extreme violence have led to an exodus of businesspeople, professors, doctors and scientists.

In the early 1990s there were about 500 industrial firms in Kano. Ten years later, that number had declined to about 200. This is one reason why many Muslim Hausa-Fulani have moved further south where, in cities like Kaduna, Jos and Bauchi, they now form the new proletarian poor.” http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,670178-2,00.html

iii) Muslims in Malaysia fire-bombed at least 3 churches because Christians used the pre-Islamic Arabic word ‘allah’ for ‘god’. http://www.france24.com/en/20100108-malaysia-church-fire-bombed-ahead-protests

Malaysia is soon to join the ranks of failed Islamic countries.

Any reasonable Muslim will realize that Islam is the cause of the Muslim’s problem and should leave Islam.

Philip Tang,

Don't you realise that Foxy has no room in her mind
for historical facts that challenge her paradigm?
Such facts are by definition Islamophobic to her.

Nevertheless,
I welcome your contribution to reasoned debate,
which can be sorely lacking in this forum.

We'd already worked that out, Porky.

Now toddle back off to your greener pastures and have a nice life. With any luck Herman will join you before long.

Been a good thread foxy, any one with Muslim or Islam will bring interest.
We have even tossed around the question Islamic new or worse now?
It is understanding that concerns me.
This mornings newspapers ask a question I would like answers to.
In Dubai we are told an English couple unwisely got drunk, after being engaged.
She says she was raped in a toilet by a waiter, unwise at least to be drunk in public and separated but it happened they say.
They went to bed, had sex, put it together after and went to the police.
Both have been charged, with what amounts to immoral conduct.
No rape tests no investigation.
Dubai, millions no billions spent to bring tourists.
Yet no place surely for westerners? well these folk may not be average but how can we understand these people.
How can we EVER learn to except actions like this?
Mankind must b breath we must and should know we are our own best judges of right or wrong.
Watch sadly as things get worse before better, the west must understand our freedoms are not even wanted by some and not available for us in their lands.

The question of - "Why has Islamic
fundamentalism intensified?" as we've discovered
is a complicated issue due to the fact that
the central problem is trying to define Islam as
a single entity - which in fact it is not.

Finger-pointing and blaming the religion - as I've
said before is an over simplification that belies the
fact that there are -
also other issues involved. Harping about what radical
extremists believe - only ignores
the fact that all religions have their radicals,
fundamentalists and extemists.

History is full of
atrocities committed by Christians against non-Christian
peoples. One has only to look at the histories of the
indigenous peoples of the Americas, Australia, New Zealand,
Africa, and Asia. Then there's Christian Missionary atrocities,
Or the histories of Serbian Orthodoxy and Roman Catholicism.

However, most observers do agree that the United
States and its allies must seriously weigh their
responses to Islamic fundamentalists in general
and to Islamic terrorist groups in particular.

A critical fist step in this process is to explore
why Muslims, including fundamentalists, around
the world think of the West, and particularly the
United States, as they do.

Doubts among Muslims about Western intentions have
their roots in the Crusades of the 11th through
13th centures and in European expansion beginning
in the 19th century and continuing through World
War I, when Europeans divided Islamic lands
throughout the Middle East and Africa among themselves.

This imperialism sowed the seeds of mistrust.

Now of course the prominent world power is the US.
Many Muslims accuse the US of hypocrisy. Especially
in its uncritical support of Israel.

This issue, more than any other, unites Muslims
around the world in their mistrust of the US.

Surveys in the Arab world show that a majority of
Muslims feel that the Palestinian issue is an important,
or even the most important issue they face as Muslims.
Surveyss of Muslims in the US show strong support for a
Palestinian state.

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