MichaelK “it is much more better than one of a million English native Australian completely illiteral M A T E S”

Only in your view. As far as the readability of your posts, by third parties, you are an illiterate.

Regarding “And I need no your comments on my English but your opinion on context of my anti-racist anti-colonial messages would be appreciated.”

Happy to oblige:

Your post on the “Australian citizenship: removing the welcome mat?” thread

Posted by you, Saturday, 23 December 2006 8:16:30 AM

“slaves to their Anglo-England-crown”
“Anglo-xenophobic Britaine-not-call-today-empire-in-general”
“monarcho-Anglo-racism!”

My response at the time

”This is the pitiful ranting of the bigot.”

You are a racist bigot of the worst order. You hide behind an inferiority complex which you pretend should shield you from criticism. I said to you in response to your vile posts

“I do not believe anyone using English, even as a second language, could have contrived to acquire so many of the words and none of the syntax.

I think you are either so pig ignorant that passing an English test for citizenship would see you fail repeatedly or you are a provocateur, deliberately corrupting English to allow you to abuse it, to satisfy your own perversions.

From reading your deranged and meaningless diatribe it is clear that you are a racist.”

Everything you have written here confirms my conclusion.

Your closing statement above “Surely, a British subject lending his property in Australia could hardly comment something but English.”

Is consistent with your other posts, in-so-much as it is complete nonsense, the work of an illiterate.

Oh and on a lighter note, I am with Rex, I think proficiency in ballroom dancing should be part of the citizenship qualification too, although not sure about the “latin” styles.

MichaelK,
Like all your other posts, the one refering to what I wrote is unreadable.

I can only suggest that you give some thought to what you want to say before writing.

At present, I will not spend time trying to decipher your posts.

C.J.MORGAN said he dislikes "racist and jingoistic sentiments" about Australia.

I could not agree more. There is nothing so dangerous as those things.

UNfortunately, when a country as young as ours, which does not have a centuries old solid tradition of cultural heritage, the most likely reaction to any sense of threat will be just that.. "jingoistic and racist".

What are the possible solutions ?

1/ Control the source and nature of the perceived threat.
2/ Educate the community and assure them that sound policy is being followed.

Howard caught the mood on point 1 by saying "We...will determine who comes to this country and under what circumstances they come"

It could not be better put. But SAYing some thing and DOing it, are not the same. As long as the Quran describes Christians and Jews as CURSED by Allah (9:30) unsuitable as friends, and advises the adherants to follow the examaple of a megalomanical sex hungry child molester/torturer/beheader who legimitized for all time the use of captive slave girls for sexual use, (23:5-6) and I still see Muslims allowed to migrate to Australia, I will not believe Mr Howard is 'DO'ing what he was SAYing.

Point 2 is still lacking.

There is a 3rd point.. INCULCATION OF CULTURE and CIVICS and developing a sense of nationhood. Not 'we are da best' jingoism, or blind nationalism, but.. Nationhood in the best sense of the word.

But while we resort to digging up and selling stuff, rather than proactively developing a nation in 5 yr plans as Malaysia did, and allowing Union bullies and Corporate Obscenity to reign....there is little chance the rest of us will do much beside whining in racist and jingoistic ways.

ReggedtyAnnie...

ALL ethnic associations are RACIST by nature and that includes British ones. I just returned from holiday and drove past this large building in Sale or Bairnsdale saying 'ITALIAN AUSTRALIAN CLUB'

I sometimes go past a Church in Box Hill south "CHINESE evangelical Church" and I'm picking on my own in that case because I am Christian.
But Paul in Galatians says "In Christ there is neither Jew nor Greek"... he also could have said "There is neither CHINESE nor Caucasian" because that is his clear meaning.

True Australian-ness does not SEE ethnicity, it just sees Australians.
I don't have a problem with saturday morning language schools as long as they are intended to just facilitate communication between new offspring and older non English speaking relatives and simply learn a language but not if it is aimed at perpetuation an alien Culture in a racist manner, to that prevailing in Australia.. There is always an advantage to having a second or 3rd language but please lets not make it a 'because we are more special' kind of thing.

You picking up on the Irish/English history is quite valid, and I believe is supportive of my contention to just see 'Australians'.

Pericles said:
[exactly when did the country stop being an outpost of its Anglo-Irish heritage - the old country, as Leigh describes it - and become the Australia of his imagination?]

It happened in the 2nd stanza of 'My Country' by Dorothea McKellar.
It happened in the hearts and minds of Australians who actually FEEL it, and it had developed into something quite solid by the beginning of WW2.

That feeling, sense of self, would be tragically misguided if Irish and English background Aussies cannot look beyond history and cling to a basic cultural one-ness that they share.
It could only be done if we view the English/Irish population aspect as an accident of history, rather than the perpetuation of former injustices here.
We are morally obliged NOT to perpetuate either the reality OR the emotion of past cruelties and to recognize ALL have sinned.

Pericles,

I cannot give you an exact date offhand, but very early in the piece. I decline to re-read John Hirst’s “Sense and Nonsense in Australian History” just to educate you. Get hold of a copy and read it for yourself. I don’t have to explain what I know for a fact to you or anyone else. Do something for yourself, or continue to wallow in your ignorance. It’s a matter of complete indifference to me

<<I sometimes go past a Church in Box Hill south "CHINESE evangelical Church" and I'm picking on my own in that case because I am Christian.
But Paul in Galatians says "In Christ there is neither Jew nor Greek"... he also could have said "There is neither CHINESE nor Caucasian" because that is his clear meaning.

I don't have a problem with saturday morning language schools as long as they are intended to just facilitate communication between new offspring and older non English speaking relatives and simply learn a language but not if it is aimed at perpetuation an alien Culture in a racist manner, to that prevailing in Australia.. There is always an advantage to having a second or 3rd language but please lets not make it a 'because we are more special' kind of thing.>>

Hi Boaz-David,

I know you are a Christian and so am I, I have seen many of your posts on this site and others. I usually just read and don't post.

I agree with Paul's statement that you quoted and for me in the Body of Christ, I feel that way, all Christians no matter what racial background are my brothers and sisters in Christ. That is also why I have no problem with immigrants who are Christians no matter what country they are from coming here.

As for the Muslim immigrants, I have heard church leaders including Jews for Jesus say that because it is virtually impossible to get Christian missionaries into Muslim countries now, maybe God is sending the Muslims to us to bring them to Christ. This idea makes sense to me.

Continued next post.