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The New White Australia Policy

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Yes, CR, English is the 2nd most widely spread language spoken in the world and personally I’d like English to be that world language for no other reason than laziness. However, if there would be a democratic vote by all countries to chose a world language, Chinese (Mandarin) may well be chosen as that language as it is the most widely spoken language in the world. Or perhaps it would have to be an artificial language, who knows. I’m open to it all.
I won’t have a problem accepting a different language than English, since it would turn me, according to C.J.Morgan, from bilingual into multilingual ;)

Leigh,
Australia is a beautiful country and you should be proud to share it with others.
A cessation of immigration would mean the greying of Australia would become a bigger challenge for the Australian economy. Without it, will Australia be able to support the older members of our society?

Think of health services (including dental care :+)), aged care services and aged pensions. Without the support of a constant flow of new, young immigrants who would support older Australians?
Instead of cessation of immigration, new immigrants should be as young as possible.

Admit it, Leigh, Australians need immigrants. Without them, Australia would be even a weaker country than you think it already is.
Posted by Celivia, Friday, 29 December 2006 2:28:03 PM
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Pericles,
please read my messages here and comprehend a significant difference between US test based on knowledge of elementary history and democracy-related issues but no verbal English test involved.
As known, even native speakers and not in the USA and Australia only sometimes hardly understand each other.

Anyway, the test in the States creates more jobs for bureaucrats than practical outcomes for both the State and seeking a naturalization.

Celivia,
today a parliamentary multicultural affairs secretary, Mr.A.Robb, that one if I remember properly, who at the time advocated special ethnic councils and some differentiation for Muslim education in Australia, once again expressed his opinion on a test as a unifying community deed because a growing number of Sudanese/African refugees should be tough Australian culture (as test and study is the same).

Even idiots in Australia know that non-Anglos are being refused “mainstream” employment but “family business” only. Taking Sudanese (a number grown from 2000 in 2000 to 23000 recently) is rather next stupid personal-benefit-over-obsessed deed of representing the fat cats clan’s interests only, while recently blabbing of “ethnic armed gangs of African descent”.

CJ Morgan,
trying to convince racists they are not racist is similarly to playing English with British-Australian feudals having no interest in even a “Honorable President”…

Col Rouge, I absolutely agree with you that my writing differs from Charles Dickens opuses. However, even requiring further polishing, it is much more better than one of a million English native Australian completely illiteral M A T E S, according to statistics. And I need no your comments on my English but your opinion on context of my anti-racist anti-colonial messages would be appreciated.

Surely, a British subject lending his property in Australia could hardly comment something but English.

Philo, Rex,
please, let you read my messages and if you still do not understand why testing accent is not less racist than providing dictations in any European language on mercy of examiner conducting Australian naturalization test at the time, I will further explain.
Posted by MichaelK., Friday, 29 December 2006 2:41:53 PM
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Celvia,
I suggest you read the discussion paper Australian Citizenship, available from the DIMA website, as you obviously have a misconception of the proposed citizenship test.

A white Australian policy,or any immigration policy, deals with how many and whom we allow into Australia. The citizenship test is for those persons with permanent resident visas who wish to become citizens. These people will have to be living here at least 4 years to be eligible. It will not matter if they are here many, many years before deciding they want to become citizens.

The idea of the longer residency requirement and the test is to stop those that use our present lax requirements to gain easy citizenship to get an Australian passport and be eligible for social welfare payments.

Like many others, I am concerned about the number of Australian citizens presently living in other countries where the cost of living is much lower and doing so on our welfare. For instance, I find it hard to believe that the huge number of 'Australians' in Lebanon, we had to assist to get out recently, were tourists. Many had to be assisted with housing here and those with dual nationality could have requested assistance from their 'other' nation.

The extra requirements should deter those that simply want to use and take advantage of us.
Posted by Banjo, Friday, 29 December 2006 5:06:14 PM
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So far as I am concerned a cooling period for migrants to get assess to support net in Australia reflects their visa categories: one criterion is for being taken on humanitarian grounds and different rules apply to business/professional categories for instance, Banjo.

Moreover, from your message is unclear how these benefits can be payable overseas: some recipients of pensions (on medical conditions) could be paid some time while abroad and these payments depend on a term they had spent in Australia -twenty five years allow a whole volume of payment being transferred overseas and a fraction, in ratio, in other cases. And age pensions are age pensions: clear, if a dual national claimed overseas a local national benefit, it does not affect Australian Medicare at all – maybe, England is exception, but you did mention a different place.

And in Australia, being additionally paid pension/compensation from overseas affects local benefits recipients differently.

I've read a document you mention and do suggest that a term to start naturalization process is up to state authorities. Either four or ten years are mere discretion of considering naturalization procedures where a democratic notion of each particular country is the most.

As mentioned somewhere on these pages already, “character grounds” that is of applicant info collected from and by different sources is the most important pattern for granting a citizenship.

Therefore, all these citizenship tests are merely both financial benefits FOR and simply artificial attempts to shift process outcomes FROM bureaucracy towards an applicant as last ten years occurred explicitly on all walks of civic life in Australia.
Posted by MichaelK., Friday, 29 December 2006 10:05:52 PM
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PERICLES and yes I read that ....but its ok.

Integrate or.... don't come- is a very good migration policy.

I'll be promoting this as hard and wide as I can.

RACE ?
English is spoken by all countries of the British Empire and that includes MANY none white races.

ENGLISH ? well.. a certain so-called holy book says all English people are CURSED by God, are DELUDED and are bereft of truth. It also says they are NOT to be made friends with. (assuming 'English' people are at least nominal Christians or Jews)

Clearly, 'English' people like Pericles are a special class of sub humans, if the above holy book is to be believed. So, Pericles is most welcome to situate himself among such people, Him being a minority of course, and he can wallow in his multi-culturalism to his hearts content.

But the rest of us have stronger feelings about that.
"Integrate...or stay away"

Integrate means we will all benefit from the rich cultural tapestry which such integrating migrants bring, as we accept the good and reject the bad. But INTEGRATE it must be.

This dovetails nicely into my own vision of a new 'Australian' who will culturally and racially be a hybrid of all the newer cultures which have come, but will remain predominantly English and caucasian.
(by virtue of numbers)

INTEGRATION= Acceptance of defense responsibilities, Acceptance of cultural practices, willingness to intermarry across cultural and racial lines.

That is NOT a 'white' Australia policy
Posted by BOAZ_David, Friday, 29 December 2006 11:04:11 PM
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For those that make claim that the new citizenship test is racist on language grounds and favours white skinned people; PLEASE IDENTIFY WHICH DARK RACES ARE DISCRIMINATED AGAINST, so we can evaluate such a claim.
Posted by Philo, Friday, 29 December 2006 11:12:25 PM
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