What countries on the Globe might provide the most chance of success for those seeking asylum from Australia? What financial costs might be involved for transportation and interim living costs until applications for permanent-resident and or work visas are processed, and what sort of waiting periods should be expected before settling into a new life?

I hope to receive responses from those who have lived for some extended time in months or perhaps years in the suggested destinations, and may have personal experience with the conditions, with preference given for tropical climates over temperate zones, but sub-tropical civilisations maybe acceptible if other conditions are accommodating.

I would suggest New Zealand.

There's lots of pretty females there eagerly waiting for a liaison with a handsome foreigner who's seeking citizenship or asylum. Yep, the girls there have lovely "woolly" hair, they're normally outgoing but can sometimes be a bit "sheepish", and they never answer back.

Yep, sounds like you'll fit in quite well with the New Zealand lifestyle. Let's face it, the Aussie girls are not nearly as pretty, so go for it you animal!

Dear Seano,

Australians wouldn't qualify as Asylum Seekers.
Most countries would say that we've
an envious life-style - all that space, fresh air,
beautiful beaches - freedom to do what we want.
They would ask -"What are you fleeing exactly?"
Boredom, wouldn't cut it.

But, if all you really want to do is travel - that's
a different story. Adventure awaits - spin the globe,
close your eyes, and pick a place.
Aussies are well liked everywhere. They have a good
reputation as being hard workers. Honest, fair,
as well as fun-loving, and easy going. Fit in anywhere.

So go for it, and Good-Luck!

if you're looking for an asylum go to Canberra.

Umm foxy, seano's post was "tongue in cheek". Why, I'm not sure. But they're not "real" questions from him. Maybe he's trying to make a point: What that point is ....... I'm not sure. Maybe seano can enlighten us.

Surely seano meant those who want to settle in Australia?

Sorry if I failed to convey the purpose of this thread to some readers. Not sure how the first respondent jumped to such conclusions but please keep the ridicule to yourselves if possible. I'm not joking. NZ can do without sex-tourist jokes after the latest school-teacher scandal.

Someone wrote on Monday that there were three sorts of criterion for which one might seek asylum: war, persecution, and/or natural disaster. Although mosquitoes are 'natural' and the effects of some bites can be 'disastrous' for years, that won't fly - too oblique, and neither will war because there simply isn't one here in Au. Persecution however, would apply to many Australians. So please provide information of the sort mentioned in the op for Australians who wish to flee from ongoing persecution by the government/s.

Also recognise that Sri Lanka has clean air and space and beautiful beaches, and the persecuted in Australia have very little freedom beyond living on the street, in prison or in the hospital/asylum if you'll excuse the pun. Let's not shame Australia further with the details. Where can we go to? What destinations beyond hell are open to asylum seekers is the purpose of this thread.

Civilised nations might include Sri Lanka as most of us are probably not Tamil Tigers, (ask Arthur C. Clarke I guess) and for health reasons of my own, equatorial/tropical zones are part of the obligations of resettlement, because one would be expected to get healthy and fit and contribute to society ASAP. Others who may wish to escape from Australian persecution may still be in good health, so all legitimate information would welcome.

If I sell the car next week, I could probably raise a total of around $1500 to cover the transport costs and costs to survive on arrival. Where would this have any chance of success? I have twelve days left to decide on the destination if any exists and if I can survive that long.

I'm not sure if Seano meant this
thread to be "tongue-in-cheek,"
or not. I take things at face-value.

Anyway, I've found a website that will
answer all of the questions that
Seano asked in his opening post:

http://www.expatexchange.com/index.cfm

It's all sorts of advice from Aussie ex-pats
who've been successful in finding jobs and
places to live - overseas. Useful stuff that
will help anyone interested in leaving Oz.

Seano “I hope to receive responses from those who have lived for some extended time in months or perhaps years in the suggested destinations,”

I have lived in UK and USA as well as Australia for periods of years.

In all honesty, I would rather live or die by my own efforts in USA than pretend that a bunch of nanny-state officials would serve my needs better with health and welfare services of hugely inefficient size which are devoid of any accountability and all funded by excessive tax rates (both direct and indirect).

I have also visited Africa. Rhodesia was once a jewel of a place. I was there a week after Mugabe came to power. I was offered a long term contract but declined on the basis I anticipated how (the communist minded) Mugabe would behave and I would not put myself and my family in harms way… I was, sadly for millions of Rhodesians of every race or tribe, right in my assessment.

Presently the Philippines hold some attractions but we (my wife and I, she is half Spanish, half Filipino) might prefer to spend just part of the year there.

My daughter is married to a fellow who is half Mauritian. Perhaps a warm and remote island would suit.

Mainland Europe would be a nice place, if not for the French, who are such bores, the Germans who have never got over losing World scale Wars, the Serbs, who have a dreadfully over developed sense of self entitlement, the boring Belgians or the suicidal Scandinavians. I suppose that leaves Austria (well the Hapsburgs did sponsor Mozart), Spain (love the women), Italy (such a friendly bunch) , Malta (another friendly bunch, since they have got rid of Mintoff) and Portugal (who Britain has, at least, never had a war with).

Thailand seems a pleasant place, although I have never been there.

I suppose those Sri Lankan Tamils thought India was too “alien” for them.

China and Japan and Korea are all rather xenophobic.

Finally, Canada is too pretentious and has an over developed inferiority complex toward USA.

Thank you for the link, Foxy. I will have a read over the site through the day and see if I can glean some information on the likelihood of light-skinned asylum seekers being granted permission to remain indefinitely and live life without the barriers I have been unable to get over in modern Australia.

As it happens, I have mostly worked 12/7 for these past three years on expat sites, with the primary goal of finding a way out of this country, but unlike the asylum seekers with hopes of getting IN to Australia, the expats who get OUT of Australia seem to fall into five main categories:

1. Rich with money to pay for life expenses.
2. Retirees or disabled on foreign government pensions.
3. Employees of multinationals or foreign governments.
4. University graduates with or without experience.
5. 'Greencard' style spouses of native citizens.

The first three have no need for a local income, the fourth requires a very large expense in time and money before a work visa might be granted (as far as I have found in the countries I have lived in previously or examined online) and the fifth is something that I could never compromise the sanctity of marriage to take part in.

On the other hand, are those Sri Lankans stranded in Indonesia now required to meet any of the expat qualifications?

It is on the basis of seeking asylum rather than the expat options that are beyond my budget and status as an Australian on NewStart for just over three years, that I inquire as to the possibilities of getting OUT in comparison to the possibilities of getting IN.

PS: Thank you to the moderator who was good enough to fix my accidental double-post when I clicked the wrong button and didn't press ESC quick enough earlier this morning. An example that there is so much good about Australia, and it is sad to have to say goodbye soon.

Ok Seano, why do you want to leave Australia?

Why do you have only "12 days left" to decide?

What do you hope to gain elsewhere that you can't get here?

Judging from your posts (if it's all real, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt) your mental state does not seem in good order. Are you currently receiving any medical assistance to help you cope with life?

Often there can seem to be no way out of a situation, but in the cool light of day and with proper assistance solutions can often be found.

First, may I thank Col Rouge for the excellent suggestions, some of which I would like to rest my hopes on, if only I had known three years ago before I made the silly mistake of returning. Most importantly, I must say I appreciate your reading comprehension skills.

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1. 'Ok Seano, why do you want to leave Australia?'
To live amongst civilised people who can understand plain English.

2. Why do you have only "12 days left" to decide?
After three years of Centrelink incompetence and lack of accountability due to pathetic excuses, the Ides of November will be a special day for me personally.

3. 'What do you hope to gain elsewhere that you can't get here?'
A civilised society where I might regain my health and resume a productive life with what little I have left of this body and mind, and escape from the constant pain and relentless administrivia.

Also, the security of knowing that I might be cared for in the event of some unexpected collision with a rogue motorist on the streets and similar sorts of misfortune.

4. 'Judging from your posts (if it's all real, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt) your mental state does not seem in good order. Are you currently receiving any medical assistance to help you cope with life?'
I am not the one with a penchant for sheep.

5. 'Often there can seem to be no way out of a situation, but in the cool light of day and with proper assistance solutions can often be found.'

That is why I was inclined by the 'asylum seekers' threads herein to post this thread. After three years of watching the 'cool light of day' with improper assistance, I have should have as much right as the Tamils to seek a solution, but maybe my rights are not good headlines.

In other words Seano you're full of BS. You're questions are not in the least bit genuine.

That's why you were ridiculed. I had it right first time.

When you post BS such as you've done, you make it difficult for "genuine" people with mental issues who may have a "genuine" need to post.

Just for one second after one of your posts I thought you may be in distress. You're clearly a BS artist.

People should ignore you forthwith.

Thank you.
I would prefer it if your kind ignored me in future.
Please keep your promises and that would be helpful.

TZ52HX
Oh dear! dear! dear! ( he puts his hand over his eyes)
I’ll put this a delicately as I can TZ

Those NZlanders have a warped sense of humor –especially when it comes to loud, Ozzie know-alls.At that karva party when they put the blindfold over your eyes and said they would introduce you to some of NZs finest, um… they didn’t exactly mean the two legged kind.

That "woolly" hair you were feeling,
And as for them being a bit “sheepish”
Well, put the pieces together for yourself .

Think back …do you recall the lulling sound of barring in the background –that was contented sheep.

You’ve been given a bumsteer, no rather, you’ve been given a eweturn.
A bumsteer is probably next on your list of experiences.

And how do I know all this …well, I was part of a film crew of NZs Funniest Home Videos.The episode will be airing on NZTV 8pm Saturday –tell all your friends to catch your big moment

You do not need to leave the country. You can be an IDP and set up a shanty town on the rich foreshores of Sydney Harbour. Bring all the disenfranchised with you, the ones not represented by Government. Could be rather nice.

Or re-ignite the long standing wish of the Far North to formally separate. Then as a victim of this civil war you can move to Australia as an asylum seeker, long discriminated against by the city folk who milk our resouces, took our red cedars for living room furniture, our gold for trinkets, our fish for dinner and then decided all to be national park because they were ruining it. The locals would never have done so much damage yet they get the punishment while they move on to other lands to exploit. No level playing field for work opportunity, raped of resource and opportunity.

It's all sorts of advice from Aussie ex-pats
who've been successful in finding jobs and
places to live - overseas. Useful stuff that
will help anyone interested in leaving Oz.
Foxy,
leaving doesn't solve such a dilemma. the land is not the problem, neither are most people. the problem is minority groups of a non-practical left background enjoying the support from like mentalied (hey, new word ?) people in authority gaining from not giving a hoot about the country but constantly bleating & claiming the right (in every sense of the word) of mismanaging which in reality is the left's unassailable expertise.

Dear Individual,

And here I thought it was the violently loud
alcoholic roughnecks whose idea of fun is to
throw up on your car that was the problem.
Silly me!

But you could be right blaming the "minority
groups." I found a clip from an old
newspaper that supports what you've written:

"The heritage of every Australian: the right to be
exactly the same as everybody else... It's not
easy to win this position in a community like
Hurstfield. From time to time, you feel like
speaking out about things, saying something that's
different for a change, until you realize - sensibly -
that it's a lot easier to make yourself like
something you really hate rather than say you hate it
and everybody go crooked on you."

Thank you for further information on page three. The Hurstfield reference might have some sort of relevance, although it is better to leave peacefully than to set words on deaf ears or continue to suffer in silence until the resentment gets too much to live with.

Rather than dwell on the causes of the resentment, which few with ADSL would understand, might it be possible at this point to return to the topic of possible destinations for asylum-seekers from Australia, as opposed to fully-funded formally-qualified ex-pats, with focus on those places which remain warm throughout the year or preferably tropical, as alluded to earlier by Mr Rouge?

As mentioned before, that climatic part is purely for personal health reasons, and time is of the essence for similar reasons. Others may manage to survive cold winters so that maybe of use to them, but we've done enough for the sheep-tourists by now.

New Zealand, Indonesia (esp Bali), Thailand, Philippines, Singapore, Vietnam, China (fit right in in Hong Kong), Taiwan, Japan, South Korea, USA, Brazil (via Panama), Practically everywhere in Europe would be places Australians would likely go for- especially New Zealand and America for most I'd imagine (ease of living in another primarilly English-speaking country).

Thank you also for the suggestions, Hazza. I should also mention that I might have given the wrong impression in my mention of 'understand plain English' when I should have written 'understand the native language' for it's part of the assimilation process to learn a new language that reflects the foreign culture in which one happens to live.

Anyway, I received some good news today, and there maybe a chance to find that warmer climate to recover from this illness at long last by the more conventional ex-pat methods, so hopefully not need to fall into the same boat as a poverty-stricken asylum seeker if my luck holds out, and the price of airfares doesn't have to go through the Christmas rush before I can afford the ticket.

With a little luck, that's my problem almost solved, but I hope that there might be other solutions available for others who end up in the same predicament as I have been stuck in for these past three years

No problem Seano! From what I know, expats from English-speaking countries tend to be able to get comfortable lifestyles in all of the above countries.