I too am leaving the thread but first Fractelle, truly wish you the best.
Brian you old word smith, you DID NOT ANSWER the question.
You avoided answering it with deft words.
Truth can indeed be found in written words as well as body language.
Forrest Gumpp well respected as you are I see we disagree again but that is both our rights.
Brian, read your replies to C J M questions.
Read C J Morgans last post, tell me I am wrong to think you convicted yourself here.

Dear Fractelle

Warm thoughts and good wishes are sent your way, from all of us I'm sure. This place is never the same without you, so take good care of yourself. Keep well and keep posting. :)

Love Bronwyn

Forrest Gumpp, I'm sorry to be so tenacious about this when you are just helping a mate out. I admire your loyalty and other attributes; forgive me. I can't accept the inadequate answers provided by Mr. Howes.

So I went looking and I reread the indictment, which in part says:

d. KNO3 advertised that it offered “discreet delivery” and customers often asked for discreet packaging in their comments submitted along with their order for chemicals.
f. KNO3 shipped orders to its customers with incorrect and misleading labelling as to the contents of the package being sent, including labelling on Red Phosphorus indicating it was “red metal for iron works” and labelling on Iodine indicating it was “Iodine for Medical Use.”
g. KNO3 frequently received and shipped orders from customers that included requests for both Red Phosphorus and Iodine together.
s. [details of an order for Red Phosphorus and Iodine] .... Written on the package’s customs declaration sticker was “red metal for iron works.”

From a Chemistry hobbyist message board:

2005: “..."Buy today we ship today!" boasts the Web site. They also offer "Fast Discreet Delivery"
http://www.theunion.com/article/20050802/OPINION/108020096

2006: I'm suspicious of any company that offers instructions on getting RP from matchbooks. http://www.chemicalsman.com does this. It sounds like an extraction technique used by meth cooks.
http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=2131&page=3

2006: KNO3.COM - How can customs check every order when they do not even open packages?
The only packages we even get back are because of address not correct. I will say it again we do not have any reason to report sales to the USA. Get Real! sales@kno3.com

Lots of warnings were issued on this message board including information when some labs had been busted. There’s quite a lot of interesting reading there: http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=2131

Despite helping people shift illicit substances through customs, I don't think you conspired as such (which I think has to be the case under the UN protocol); but I don't see how you could have not known that your chemicals would be used in drug cooking - 70 occasions I believe. I think you thought that your defence "... but it's legal in the UK" would confer immunity.

I also listened to all of your recordings. I'm sorry but IMO they do not help your case; possibly just the opposite.

Unless you have something more to say in explanation (Like why you would put on your site instructions on how to extract RP from match heads? - geez man did you think you were invincible? ); I won't be needing to post further.

Pynchme

d. KNO3 advertised that it offered “discreet delivery” and customers often asked for discreet packaging in their comments submitted along with their order for chemicals.
f. KNO3 shipped orders to its customers with incorrect and misleading labelling as to the contents of the package being sent, including labelling on Red Phosphorus indicating it was “red metal for iron works” and labelling on Iodine indicating it was “Iodine for Medical Use.”
g. KNO3 frequently received and shipped orders from customers that included requests for both Red Phosphorus and Iodine together.
s. [details of an order for Red Phosphorus and Iodine] .... Written on the package’s customs declaration sticker was “red metal for iron works.”

says "(Like why you would put on your site instructions on how to extract RP from match heads?"
End Pynchme comments.

Please explain as I have never given instructions to anybody to do this and to make it clear no website I owned or own has ever done so.

On the other hand for the same period the USDEA was running websites in our company name with our address selling the same chemicals as us and also the main ingredients and those sales have been put down to us.

but you would probably know that if you listened to all the conversations, the second on with Don Sherard of the USDEA.

D. Kno3 did not offer discreet delivery what is the evidence?

F. we did not mislabel packaging Iodine is for Medical use and Red Phosphorus is used in many application including metal works.

G. We did shop both chemicals together as they are both used in fireworks and science experiments, there is nothing unusual in that in the UK. We received 40,000 orders over 3 years fro mall over the world if a staff member and yes we had staff doing the packaging wrote a label incorrectly then it is entirely possible.

As for receiving request mislabel orders, We simply never shipped orders with requests of this kind.

Pynchme I do not feel invincible. nut nothing you have said has any evidential substance to it.

Brian,
your testimony here reads like something banal from a scandalous corporate transcript--like Kerry Packer without balls. Basically, you were doing it "the American way", or the Australian Way, like the AWB indiscretion. You should be applauded for your entrepreneurship.
If we are going to put you on trial, then the whole Western world should be on trial for breach of ethical conduct--only ever observed in the breach!
So the Howes are to be fall-guys for the "routine" indiscretions of our governments--our representatives--us. This is how we do penance in these enlightened times; ritual sacrifice--I feel better already. Forgive the hyperbole, but it is the ceremony that's important, the outcome can only redound to the credit of the offended prosecutor. It's all great PR for our spotless judiciaries, border protection, international trade and foreign policy.

We need to get over the guilt thing. Give the superegos a day off and put the Howes' Heinous crimes in context!
Ethics is for drones, mugs and ascetics---until it's common currency!
Good luck to you, Brian. At worst, you can write a bestseller while you're in the slammer for "our" sins.
I recommend "Crime and Punishment"---for comic relief.