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The Rise of Atheism - Convention

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In your opinion, Mr Nicholls.

>>No Pericles, Against stupidity!<<

In my opinion, against dissent.

We shall yet again have to agree that we have different opinions.

Or are you going to claim that your own views are by definition fact, while others by definition cannot be?

That wouldn't entirely surprise me.
Posted by Pericles, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 5:02:53 PM
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OUG,

You say: We should not judge Zeus and Zeus is forgiving. Yet, if Zeus is forgiving, why did he condemn the Titans? Why not pardon the Titans? Why not be merciful? If Zeus is not merciful; how can we claim god is merciful? Is Zeus always right, because Zeus is god? Seems to me, morals must bend to autocracy or should I say godocracy?

Also,

"the only valid witnes..is first hand...like the testimony in the new testiments..by deciples who seen/heard experienced the messiah in persomun/in person.of fact" - OUG

How do you know the histories about Zeus were first hand accounts? Could it be the disciples of Zeus wrote about events over a generation after events, as was the case that other god, Jesus?
Posted by Oliver, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 5:39:27 PM
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Pericles,

That is just silly but if you can support that by quoting me, directly or by inference, that would be nice.

But, of course you can't.

David
Posted by Atheist Foundation of Australia Inc, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 6:16:59 PM
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to quote...WORD FOR WORD..suss-gee..who repeats...moot-toot-moot-hoot...<<..You still have not explained away..the mountains..lol..of evidence..that contradict...lol..your creationists claims,>>

please define..the evidence more closely..to the topic

i have repeatedly..stated....present your thesis...but..no one dares..

you mindless..lot..dont have an origonal thought/..theory...and certainly..dont have the science...saying../..underpinning..a simgle thing..YOU CLAIM

<<why..the mass of evidence..in radioactivity>>>..please present..your lol..radio-activity/evidence..is evidencing..just what..egsactly../..specificly

<<tree rings,>>..wow..tree rings..

..this is your thesis...or is it your proof..?

it certainly dosnt disprove god nor religion...again..please[either/suss...or moot-woot...davidian..or-liver..[or you other a-thiests]..state the relivance..of these sciences..to evolution/god/or religion/or athiesm..or this../discussion/debate.....lol

<<ice cores>>ice-cores..proving just what..egsactly..i think your mixing global-warning..data..with evolution..or your anti/quasi/..not-religion..complex..or..your disbelief..in god,

<<corals,..supernovas>>>..corals are proving just what egsactly...relitive to the debate../god/evolution/..or religions getting lucre

<<from astronomy,..biology,>>>..ahh yes..the dorkins believes we come from alians...lol...where these alians come from...other alian's/infinitum?...or...god maybe?...your clutching at strawmen...like all your fellow..ignorants/faithless/...athiest'ss

<<physics,>>..yes physics...but again..how does this relate to that..

<<gravity>>...the gravity theory..of evolution?

<<geology>>>lol gee-l0gy,..your..dumb distractions..know no bounds...lol

<<chemistry and archeology>>you have an extensive list...lol..of the sciences...

you left out..the few..CLAIMED to underpin...your theory..or at least are claimed SPURIOUSLY...to prove your athiestic..disbeliefs...that are science..but mate...you got nothing

naming the sciences..what...thats your proof?...lol

<<I don't need to prove anything..to you>>>..just because you take the lie..with your faithlessness...dosnt mean we all swallow..the spin

<<I'd go 'toe to toe' with you>>>...mate were doing that...here/now

present...YOUR THESIS..

present...HOW your laundry list..of sciences..proves or validatyes your disbelief.or invalidates god...or says ANYTHING about religion...

im not one of your mindnumb sheeple

PRESENT YOUR PROOF..you got none...live with it

DANCING/...toe to toe<<...like I have with theology professors>>...

go for it..im not judging..your dancing/style...

its your utter and complete lack of the science-proofs..you repeatedly..claim..liver-spotted davidians..woot woot...gee...how-SUSS..is that..

oh-liver..davidians

*£!..<<<As stated,..this has nothing to do..with science,...>>>never a truer word spoken...lol..as sir joe-bjp..so aptly said...

''you got..one foot..each side..of..the..barb wire../fence...

thats why..lol..you cant step forward..nor back...

watch you dont lose..your one third..of a foot...lol...or those nutters..he/you..nestle upon

MASSIVE AMMOUNTS OF KNOWLEDGE...lol..certainly not from the lot of you..here at this post...LOL

<<<So excuse me while I laugh :)>>

...ha ha oh-liver.../mootmoot/woottoot...gee-how-suss...lol..dorkins-inco../..davidians..lol

australia's..weaker/fondational../athiests...inc...party..lol

any of you...PRESENT your/..THESIS...

third call...@..[this topic]
Posted by one under god, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 8:22:01 PM
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OUG,

I don't understand the connection between my above questions regarding God (Zeus) and "davidians" (your reply). Zeus was an Olympian. Accordng to Scripture the Olympians were in ascent after the Titians. The House of David to whom both Joseph and Mary traditionally belonged (along with thousands of others no doubt)fostered mendicants whom ministered Judaism to the Gentiles around the turn of the Common Era. Julius Casear sponsored the Herodians (who were not true Jews)to oversee the the House of David. In Jesus' last days, under Augustus the Octavian, the Herodians were out of favour and the Annas were taking over.

While some (e.g. Theiring) would have Jesus leveraging the House of David to gain political power to establish a Kingdom of God with Jesus (and later Jesus II) as leader, Zeus would have established His heavenly kingdom centuries beforehand. Moreover, Zeus does not seem to acknowledge the OT Kingdom of the House of David in his scriptures and not even when Zeus sent his messanger Hermes to meet Priam.

Please revisit my questions.

Also,

Zeus had foreknowledge that Prometheus would hide the best cuts of meet from Him at the first BBQ, one can assume that Zeus also knew of Jesus' fate, before Jesus was born. Afterall, the Scriptures say Zeus is God.
Posted by Oliver, Thursday, 22 October 2009 9:58:19 AM
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OUG et al,

1. Above, should be "meat" not "meet", of course.

2. Tree rings can be dated by counting them. You should know that. There are trees over 6,000 years old and clonal root systems 80,000 years old.

But, first things first. Please answer my Zeus questions.
Posted by Oliver, Thursday, 22 October 2009 10:04:10 AM
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