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Predation and Della Bosca

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Hello Folks,

Well I'm back from my Sydney trip.

What's all the fuss about?

John Della Bosca has resigned.

His resignation has been accepted.

His future career path - well, I guess that rests
with the party - doesn't it?

The matter should now be - for him
and his wife to resolve.

As for who's to blame?

Only the people involved - really know.

Did Della Bosca really have sex on a couch in his
Parliamentary office?

Did he really miss a flight to a Meeting with Hospital
and Health Officials in Armidale to spend time with
his young lover?

Did he consistently cancel work commitments to see his
young lover and spend time with her?

If the answer is yes to even one of these questions -
then obviously his actions were affecting his job
as a Minister of the Crown - and he was right to
resign. It was his decision to make - and if
he's as smart as people claim he is - then he
made the right decision.

I doubt whether his political career is over.

As for the young lady - hopefully she'll move on,
and has learned something from all this.
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 4 September 2009 1:44:07 PM
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Welcome back Foxy

Some common sense at last.

I agree it is a big fuss over nothing, and for the OLO editor to try and provoke an issue by claiming that the young woman is some kind of predator is poor form.

There are exemplary women and men; DB and his hapless young lover are not among them.

I do agree if DB's relationship did interfere with his work then it was correct for him to resign, however, we don't know for sure. None of us is really in a position to judge - but that's never stopped any of us before. However, I do draw the line at the original premise for this thread, it is something I would expect from someone like Formersnag, not Graham Young.
Posted by Fractelle, Friday, 4 September 2009 3:33:16 PM
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I'm disgusted with the appalling morals of the ''mistress''? She knowingly begins an affair with a married, public figure. It does not work out the way she expects and she feels aggrieved.

Instead of behaving like a mature adult and taking responsibility for her decisions and behaviour, she decides she is entitled to destroy the man and his career, and publicly humiliate his family, while keeping her own identity hidden.

Fractelle,

'That she may have had strong emotional feelings for DB has not occurred to a 'certain subset of OLO males'.'

Ah yes, strong emotional feelings is carte blanche to enact any type of revenge because someone didn't behave like you wanted them to. Grow up man. Oh, because she is a woman, her feelings are more important than his. She's the victim you know. In your little head, he's a man, hence has no feelings and just wanted sex, and she's a vulnerable woman madly in love and he's trodden all over her. This all goes back to the source of your problems with men.

'And DB was a complete innocent? He was the one without power?'

Yes he had a hell of a lot more to lose than the girl. It's pretty obvious who had the power, and who used that power. The girl.
Exactly what power had JDB used/abused?

This is a form of domestic violence. If an aggrieved man turns up at the office of an ex-lover and calls her a slut and she gets sacked, imagine your opinions then. What if he had naked pictures of her and decided to send them around. I bet you'd be playing a different tune then. Oh yes, but when a woman does it, she's the powerless victim.

Apparently it is 'fair play' for any woman whose relationship didn't work out to take adequate revenge. To trash property, throw a tanti and public humiliate the ex. There's no way she didn't know he was married, and no relationship is guaranteed to work out.

I know who has handled themselves with more dignity in this little episode that's for sure.
Posted by Houellebecq, Friday, 4 September 2009 3:37:32 PM
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Banjo your comment that you understood I had to stick up for my party bought my reaction.
Some remarks about that restaurant thing are uninformed.
Dela stood by his wife, she may well have questions to answer he did what most men do.
Lets not get bogged down in stupidity.
At 26 years of age this is no young girl, surely for a start she knew he was wedded to his well known wife?
Why do we always blame the bloke?
What did she want from the relationship?
Not hot sex surely.
Did she like the look of his well slept in face.
On what evidence do Dela's detractors say he started this?
I know the bloke, he is no monster, not a woman chaser, he is a very good politician.
Now GY is a liberal, he is young enough to grow out of that.
But I see no kicking the ALP here, in fact I kick them in NSW here more than he ever has.
Wast of time however they look like a very dead cat that has been in the middle of the road for a very long time.
Maybe in John we lost our chance to beat the invisible man whats his name the leader of the equally dead opposition.
Posted by Belly, Friday, 4 September 2009 5:00:21 PM
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Belly,
"26 is no young girl", ya think?
Physically you're correct but beyond that hmmm.
My 27 YO son is/was (who knows) has/had a 26 YO (ex?) girlfriend. Complete with long distant phone hysterics at one AM; ringing the house phone because he wouldn't answer his mobile....he was in bed asleep; her trying to enlist his 23 yo sister as an ally; distorting conversations and emotional manipulations. The long distant war is enough to drive a man to drink (not that I really need one that what political parties are for) ;-).

They are both behaving like pubescent dills but that's their business.
My point is age is no guarantee of maturity.

DB's judgement must have been on holiday and left his ego in charge.
Common sense should have told him that this wasn't going to end well.

As for the GY's motives, well he didn't get where he is/was in the party without some amount of ruthless/cunning and anticipatory planning. It comes with the territory have a look at Minchin the moral munchkin or perhaps Mike Kaiser, the Bud fambly.

Foxy
Playing the occasional hooky is good to release pressure. As a snr Manager I would occasionally go MIA to regroup. A fishing rod and a pier for an hour or 4 used to do wonders for the longevity for some of my staffs lives. A stress relief from worrying where to bury their bodies. ;-)
Posted by examinator, Friday, 4 September 2009 6:02:29 PM
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Houel:”I'm disgusted with the appalling morals of the ''mistress''? She knowingly begins an affair with a married, public figure. It does not work out the way she expects and she feels aggrieved.

Instead of behaving like a mature adult and taking responsibility for her decisions and behaviour, she decides she is entitled to destroy the man and his career, and publicly humiliate his family, while keeping her own identity hidden.”

Are you being sarcastic Houel? You must be. You are aren’t you?

What you have said is exactly what Mistresses may choose to do and what all grown Men know they are capable of.

Once this path is the chosen one they have also knowingly chosen for themselves All Consequences and if particularly Man-like they will take it on the damn chin like a man should.

As for Miss Home Wrecker, bless her I believe Seeker could explain “a woman scorned”.

I know Fractelle, everyone might have been sincere, she may have believed him or loved him for awhile and he her for awhile – who cares.
Posted by The Pied Piper, Friday, 4 September 2009 6:19:53 PM
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