Hey Examinator

What do you think of Graham's attempt to lay the blame on "predatory" females?

Obviously Kate deliberately set out to seduce DB, in order to publicly reveal his indiscretion, thus achieving.... now this is where I get bogged down, what exactly has she achieved for herself? Notoriety? Apparently there is no money involved. That she may have had strong emotional feelings for DB has not occurred to a 'certain subset of OLO males'.

And DB was a complete innocent? He was the one without power?

Graham thank you for clarifying for many of your posters (male and female) why you allow such latitude to some posters whose agenda is to denigrate women no matter what the topic.

I agree that Kate has not behaved well, but to claim she is a predator? Ooops your bias is showing (again).

For myself, DB proved himself a complete tosser with "iguana-gate" - such boorish behaviour that I would associate with arrogance and pretentiousness - these flaws indicate his incompetence as a Public Servant. As for his marital cheating - that is between himself and his family, has nothing to do with his ability as a politician. If every polly was forced to resign due to adultery, our halls would be empty.

Hence my previous point about Holt, Hawke et al, which no-one has commented upon.

This entire thread is nothing more than a pallid excuse to put the boot into women and the (admittedly) basket-case NSW Labor Party.

Congratulations, Graham; two birds, one stone

Examinator,

If you had spent any time overseas, you would realise that the Australian attitude to censorship, sex and nudity are restrictive and puritanical, surpased only by the islamic states and some parts of the USA.

The outcry over the teenage photo portraits on display was watched with amusement elsewhere in the world, and made me embarrassed to be Australian.

Kate was either stupid and naive or a vindictive alley cat.

Considering that she is a university educated 26 yr old veteran of several relationships, I think the former is unlikely.

The media has other outlets for these stories such as the Jerry Springer show.

As for your analysis "It was the media that wrote the story not the public" and "An argument could be mounted that he abused his power etc, "promising to leave wife etc to wow a naive young female for his carnal dalliances"

It just goes to show that you have delusions of adequacy.

Fractelle,
I was going to comment on your assertions about Holt, Hawke and Gorton but got side tracked on other things.

I do not recall any public accusations that these politicians were having extramarital affairs. Certainly do not recall them admitting to such, as in this case. If so my attitude would be exactly the same.

These politicians are mature people and are aware of exactly what they are doing. I do not believe they are subject to the same level of infatuation that young teenagers would be and are, or should be, held accountable. As I said no married person can have an affair without being a cheat and liar.

To me it is of no consequence that they had an affair. Single people are their own free spirit. But married persons break a trust if they do so. Unless the spouse accepts this, which is probably rare.

Then they have the hide to ask the electors to trust them.

I'm not influenced by morality or prudery, but I do think this affair speaks to the character and integrity of John Delabosca. A person who can exercise such poor judgement and deceive his long-term partner in the process is not the sort of person to hold high office.

If he's capable of such duplicity in his private life, he's also likely to lack the integrity needed to engage wisely in government decision-making. The fact he could so easily be turned by a younger face also indicates a lack of stability and a weakness of character.

His resignation is no loss to anyone, and I'm sure it was done more to spare himself from further personal embarrassment, than it was out of any more noble consideration of the embattled NSW government.

CJ

<< Indeed, given who he's married to, I imagine many people would understand why he might stray from the matrimonial boudoir. >>

I'm no fan of Belinda Neal either, but no person, man or woman, deserves to have the partner they've committed themselves to in marriage dump them so ignominiously for a younger model, even if only temporarily.

Jayb

<< She knew exactly what she was doing & how to go about making a quid. >>

I haven't been following this closely, but perhaps some evidence to prove that she was out to profit from the entrapment of a poor hapless male, as you imply, might be in order before you go slandering her reputation any further.

Fractelle,
To me the whole thing is salacious rubbish in the way it's being handled by the media and the political parties.

I admit I hadn't read his URL , I have now.
True, there are predatory women as there are power groupies. What we have here is a non professional (the journo) either shopping for an opinion to match his need for sensation or a very sloppy professional opinion.
I wonder how a professional without actually talking to a person can make such a definitive diagnosis. I suggest what we have here is an OPINION stripped of its professional qualifiers like; she (Kate) "COULD be..." and "on the surface her public explanation doesn't APPEAR to make sense" et al. The most likely explanation is that somewhere in the chain the opinion has been firmed up to make better copy.

I ignored it originally because it was secondary to the original point.

I think you may be over interpreting GY's motives.

I see a political expedience there but doubt the specific intention to be anti feminist as such.
It can be argued that the NSW Labor govt is on the nose so by defending DB (labor) in this way won't help them but may help muddy the water in a defense of conservative party members' indiscretions. Given the possible back lash it may have in the Qld context.

He knows that what goes around comes around and as a committed LNPer he doesn't want the same heavy handed club used against his members.

He also knows that at least 2 of the current crop have been guilty of the similar indiscretions. One in a VERY marginal seat.

Examinator: " I think you may be over interpreting GY's motives."

<< Predation and Della Bosca

There's an imbalance of power in the Della Bosca scandal that's been worrying me. While Della Bosca is theoretically the powerful one in the relationship between him and the woman known only as "Kate", the way in which it has been reported seems to me to unreasonably tip the balance away from Della Bosca to Kate.

Clinical psychologist Janet Hall on LiveNews put some flesh onto these concerns talking about "predator women" <<

Examinator, I think you are correct, GY didn't lay the boot into the Labor Party.