Asking For Everyone To Surport The forgotten Australians

If You Are a Forgotten Australian attend Even If You are Not a Forgotten Australian

Suprot Us Victims Who Were raped And Abuse In These State And territories , Institutions Of Australia

We Are The Real Victims The Goverments Of Australia Still Cover Up About

And They Addmitt To The Destruction Of Our Records So we can Not get Justcie In the Courts , That Prove Our Story And case for Justice

G'Day All,
Huffnpuff, If I can make it I will definitely be there it is just going to be a little hard financially as I am on a DSP & haven't much left over each fortnight but I will try.
The Governments have a lot to answer for especially since reading the Parliamentry Discussion papers on the 1987 NSW Child Protection Act had two main points of interest that was supposed to stop a lot of the crap that is still going on.
The two points were (1)to stop the ridiculous idea that a child should have to defend itself against neglect when they have not committed a crime & (2) to stop children languishing in long term care giving rise to illegal backdoor adoptions.
Neither one of these points put a stop to DoCS continuing with their wanton destuction of families & the systemic abuse of our children.
We have three books released together called Attachment & Loss by John Bowlby that is one of the most indepth studies that I have read in relation to children but 90% of the Departments & Government Bodies when asked about Attachment & Loss don't even know his name.I have found that anyone that wants to practice in child welfare law that this would be compulsory reading.
Thanks for your time & may your Lord shine on you well.Dave.

Dear Michael,

I won't be able to attend due to family commitments,
and the fact that I live so far away (in Melbourne),
but my thoughts and prayers will be with you.
As you know I've emailed MPs in the past regarding
the matter of the Forgotten Australians - and I shall
continue to apply pressure in whatever way I can.
We will succeed Michael!

we are the forgotten autralians

we are victims who were abused in the states and territories institutions of australia

we are the people who where abused by the system , the australian goverment still covers up till this day

and their are newer abused victims till this da

I personally am sorry.
Sorry huffnpuff that we can not get interest in your thread.
Sorry that rape, floggings, sadism, dreadful crimes against people in care, continue to be covered up.
I am sorry that senate inquiry's call for action are put on the back shelf.
Sorry that so many do not take the time to read of your torture and pain.
Sorry that maybe I will not be able to make it, but I will try, very hard.
Sorry that if I do we, you I and those who gather will be seen by so many as just anther crowd of lefty protesters.
Huffnpuff I regret that some think it never happened, that you made t up, but most importantly I am sorry my friend that until we finally say sorry, finally fix it, and set laws in place to imprison those who rape harm and torture it will never end.
The crimes against children and youth in our world degrade us all, we should hang our heads in shame.
fellow posters, how long would it take to write to your member of choice and demand those words?
We are sorry huffnpuff

G'Day All,
Belly, Sorry is an easy word to say but if nothing is changed in the one that uses that word then the word is meeningless.
"How long would it take to write" this is exactly the point that I think Huffnpuff is trying to get across & definitely what I am trying to get across it is no use saying sorry. Write to or contact Mr Elton Humphery(Secretary) Ms Christine McDonald (Principal Research Oficer) Ms Geraldine Badham (Principal Research Officer) Mr Peter Short (Senior Research Officer)Ms Leonie Peake (Research Officer)Ms Ingrid Zappe (Executive Officer) phone 02 6277 3515 fax 02 6277 5829 E-mail community.affairs.sen@aph.gov.au internet http://www.aph.gov.au/senate_ca
While you are writing please send a letter on behalf of my son as well PLEASE.
The ones that need prosecuting is the Solicitors Magistrates & the Departments that continue to remove children & place them with people that have a poor track record with there own children place them with so-called religious bodies that have shown poor track records in the past. " If you always do what you always did then you will always get what you always got"
Thanks All for your time Dave

G'Day All,
The quote in the front of the Senate Report Book says it all
"Any nation that does not care for and protect all of its children does not deserve the right to call itself a nation" Nelson Mandela
Thanks from Dave

Huff I don't know your story - only fragments.

Dwg - I don't know your story regarding your son at all.

I get the general gist I think, but if you're up to posting a bit of it I would be most interested.

Anyway, DOCs has become worse; much worse.

The way some children are being removed and kept from really good parents is reprehensible, while at the same time the department fails miserably to remove children who need protection; together with their extraordinary legal power - weilded by idiot new graduates who haven't a clue. I am becoming increasingly convinced that the whole department should be scrapped - it's become too big and way too powerful. I am thinking smaller localized units where parents and children who can express themselves have a right of reasonable appeal against any decisions.

Anyway - Huff my thoughts and prayers also go with you especially on the day you all gather. Are there any other addresses for email? Or what do you recommend?

Dave dwg I know of your pain.
I read your posts, understand them.
Huffnpuffs story is even worse.
The pain is justified raw, dreadful and some who know it should post those links.
I Dave got of lightly, my family was poor, welfare the then DOCS haunted us.
We kids ran in fear at their arrival on our street.
A handful, one family, of bigoted Irish Catholics was aways the first home visited.
On their reports poor family after poor got visited, sometimes the hardest workers kids, well loved and looked after got taken into care.
Strange the bigots in later life saw EVERY one of their kids do prison time.
Dave you commited a classic crime against your own campaign, you took ownership of it, declared my support unwanted in my eyes by saying it is easy to say sorry.
Well David it s not, not at all, I feel your pain, know this my job brings evidence of fathers bashed!
By DOCS, by courts, by ex wifes, how can humanity ALWAYS blame the dad?
Dave we you I huffnpuff, know the dreadful truth, nothing is being done, saying sorry is a start, yet it may never happen.
If Dave we divide our selves, if we in fight and insult one another.
Divide and defeat is a well trodden path mate.
My best wishes but do not let the dreadful pain you live with daily turn supporters away.

For those that want to know the kids stories, Google 'The Forgotten Australians'. There is a Senate report you can get.

Huff, I'll try my best to be there. Can you give me a time and as I would like to meet you, can you wear something distinctive so I'll know you.

G'Day All,
Belly, to say sorry like I say is easy Kevin Rudd did it & what difference did it make. Until people demand that the people be prosecuted publicly & openly nothing will change.
The way to put a stop to all this mess is once & for all prosecute the Director-General for criminal charges ie Kidnap, Perversion of Justice, Perjury, Collusion, Conspiracy etc then people in authority will maybe get the general idea that they are accountable & make it a point to oversee ALL of the removals.
I have the paperwork that proves all this but noone wants to stand with me to petition for this to happen.
Pynchme if you contact me direct I will give you the whole story as the forum & on line opinion have given me about as much ground as they can over the time to say much more here would or could lead to trouble so contact graysond49@yahoo.com & I will gladly give you the story.
If I or You or anyone else has a child in their care & that child ends up dead or abused by our actions or inactions we are prosecuted then so to the Director-General should be prosecuted. The argument that all hide behind is the rule that you cannot prosecute the government & that is right BUT you can prosecute anyone that works for the government.
Thanks again for your time & may your Lord shine on you well.Dave.

The Forgotten ones have my sympathy but it is divided as I sit and watch this generation of them play.

My focus is on the children still living ignored, unhappy, abused little lives because “charities” and “not for profit” facilities can make millions in government funding.

Who comes first; the child living through it now or the adult who has lived through it? Could one help the other?

We'll just meet at the Botanical Gardens every say twenty years?

MR RUDD TO APOLOGIZE TO THE FORGOTTEN AUSTRALIANS

A BIG STEP FOR US VICTIMS WHO THE GOVERMENT HAS CONTINUED TO COVER UP ABOUT

WE ARE REAL VICTIMS AND WILL NO LONGER BE FORGOTTEN

TODAYS NEWS 30th AUGUST IN THE AGE NEWS PAPER, THE DAILY TELEGRAPH, THE SYDNEY SUNDAY HEARLD

LETS JUST HOPE MR RUDD DOES NOT DO A BACK FLIP ON US VICTIMS

AND WILL BE GOOD TO KNOW HOW HE WILL WORD OUR APOLOGY , AND WHAT HE WILL DO FOR US VICTIMS

I want to thank everyone out their who has suported me in geting our apology from mr rudd,,

and yes i will be at the memorial in sydney when the state of new south wales says sorry , but it would be better if this is when mr rudd apologizes to us victims , but that will be a federal apology with both mr rudd and mr turbull.

when will this be,

later in the year so the news on t.v says , tonight on t.v

those who asked what i will be wearing in sydney on the memorial day , i should go naked as that is what the goverment did to us in these institutions ,

or a ball and chain can't deside as yet a lot of people know who i am as they did at canberra on the 26th june 2009,

who knows i might be a marked man by the pedophiles who raped me hope so cause i will do my own justice their on them .

as i have stopped being affraid , by the goverment and thoses who raped me ,

Huff,
Heard the news this morning and it got good coverage on tonights ABC news.

Am very pleased for you as I know how much work you have put in on this. This will be recognition of what you people endured and formally validate the Senate reports.

I await an announcment of when the apology will take place and I'll definately be in Canberra to witness that.

My understanding is that the Feds will apologise but will leave it up to the states and the NGOs responsible to work on any compensation and so on.

Good luck to you all.

G'Day All,
Well Huff, it looks like the PM is going to apologise I just hope that the apology is not as hollow as it was with the other stolen & abused kids.
An old saying "you can't be sorry with a smile on your face" lets see if the PM smiles when he says sorry.
This saying sorry while the garbage still goes on is useless.
The time has come to severely prosecute the solicitors & magistrates that make the decisions that put children in positions & places that give rise to this abuse.
TPP to a degree is right it happened but why hasn't it stopped & the kids of today that still go through all this WHY?
When it is shown that the magistrate has made a serious error & ignored the law then there is only 2 ways they can plead out of their wrong is that they were negligent or they wilfully did it either way they need to be brought to account.
Hang in there Huff there is someone listening.
Thanks for your time from Dave.

Great news about the apology huffnpuff.

Long overdue. My best wishes to you and your fellow Forgotten Australians huffnpuff, on what has been a long journey.

When r we ever going 2 STOP and say enough,i was put in an institution when i was 2 years old and in that time i was also put in a hell hole called Goodna ADULT mental hospital,that place was not mentioned in the redress scheme but do u think anyone is interested NO NO No they all suck and am very very angry still Barbara

Not a surprise Barbara.

It never stopped happening.

If even The Forgotten can ignore the children then I have no clue who the hell is ever going to care enough to end it.

G'Day All,
There is an easy way to stop the abuse of kids, gaol the child abusing bastards & leave them in main stream. The first three commandments are thou shalt not molest a child, thou shalt not abuse a child, thou shalt not burn a family home,there could be a child inside.
If these rules are the rule on the other side of the wall it has to be the rule this side of the wall.
Once people could see the consequences for this type of sh$t they will get the general idea.
Ask the ones that faced the hurt pronounce the punishment.
Have a happy day. Dave.