Preicles,

In addition to Gilbert and Sullivan, I think that Rogers and Hammerstein's "You've got to be carefully taught" may make a further contribution to your response, and to some aspects to this discussion as well.

Ooops - typo I typed "numb", I meant to say "nub".

Well, I still have my citizenship even if I do make a mistake.

The difference between a citizen and a subject is important. In the Australian Constitution the presumption is that we are all subjects, and we certainly were on the 9th July 1900, when the referendum held to create Australia was held.

That document was not supposed to be altered except by a referendum, so getting us reclassified from subject to citizen, is a slimy Liberal Party trick. This is the dying gasp of a fundamentally dishonest Political Party, and without a referendum, the Liberals made us members of a number of republics, nine in all. This is lifted directly from the 2007 Act. The Commonwealth is destroyed by the Australian Citizenship Act 2007, and we have no High Court willing to hold it illegal. But then they were all Liberal Party appointed or approved, during the eleven years of Liberal Rule.

You can buy a lady for a night in Kings Cross in Sydney, how much worse is it when a government buys the whole High Court.

1 Form of pledge no. 1
From this time forward, under God,
I pledge my loyalty to Australia and its people,
whose democratic beliefs I share,
whose rights and liberties I respect, and
whose laws I will uphold and obey.
2 Form of pledge no. 2
From this time forward,
I pledge my loyalty to Australia and its people,
whose democratic beliefs I share,
whose rights and liberties I respect, and
whose laws I will uphold and obey.
Compare this with the Oath of Allegiance that remains unrepealed in the Constitution. It says:
I AB swear that I be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty Elizabeth the Second her Heirs and successors according to law, So help me God.

What sort of scurrilous scum, would substitute this pledge for the Oath of Allegiance. Liberal Party Scurrilous scum, that is who, the same scurrilous scum, who started to dismantle the Australian Government, and substitute Gangster Ruled Governments in its stead that continue to this day in all three eastern States.

Rudd said he would rule under the Constitution. This is his big test

Fractelle,

Re: “Ooops - typo I typed ‘numb’, I meant to say ‘nub’.
Well, I still have my citizenship even if I do make a mistake”

To be honest Fractelle, your …um, predicament, has more commonality with the Cornelia Rau case , than any of the others – detention rather than deportation is probably the biggest danger you face.

A rose by any other name smells just as sweet, but a rat remains a rat, no matter what he is called. The Australian Citizenship Act 2007, should be hung around Turnbull’s neck, like a dead chicken in a bag, until the Liberal Party find a leader who has one ounce of loyalty to the Commonwealth.

I suspect there may have been disagreement over this Act within the Liberal Party, but since it is secret society, with its proceedings hidden we will never know. They would certainly have been supported by Mark Latham, and Kim Beasley, but would Kevin Rudd support this if he was pushed. He came out as an honest man, who took the proper Oath of Allegiance when he entered Parliament, who still takes Holy Communion in the Anglican Church, and asks for the blessing of Almighty God on this nation as we all do every Sunday.

The undeserving underperformers in the Liberal Party don’t deserve to be in government ever again, but Almighty God is a merciful God, and in his mercy, He will probably hear the next prayer delivered by the Liberal Party to the collective soul of Australia, which is sixty five percent Christian, if they repent and campaign against this dirty gangster sponsored Act.

The thunderous silence from Malcome, should see him called Malgohome, after the next election unless the Liberal Party can find an honest leader. It is a measure of Peter Costello that he has refused to be a leader of such a rabble. I would think a Christian would find an irreconcilable conflict between the Pledge, and his Oath of Allegiance, but an atheist or an agnostic see nothing wrong.

There are some Christians in the Liberal Party. I was there in Canberra on the 7th August 2006, when Kevin Rudd said he was one, supported by a number of other Labor Members, and there were a few Christian Liberals and Nationals there too. Peter Costello was not one of them, but I think his brother was there. This was where Kevin Rudd sucker punched John Howard.

As a collective community Australians must be the most laid back society in the world. If a Parliament in Iran or Pakistan tried to pass a law totally insulting to the Main Religion in the land, riots would be guaranteed. Today I went into Information Victoria, which stocks Commonwealth Acts, and asked for the Australian Federal Police Act 1979, and the Australian Citizenship Act 2007, and because they are never asked for they are not in stock.

Fortunately the Commonwealth is up to date with technology, and in Comlaw, with Google, a copy can be downloaded and printed instantly. Both make interesting reading. I am of the opinion that lawyers in the Liberal Party nobbled the Australian Federal Police and kept them on Serepax, for the past eleven and a half years of Liberal rule. They have adequate power to be an enormous force for good.

The Australian Citizenship Act 2007, is one of the Acts that do not mention the Queen. Probably that is because it an insult to Her. Australian citizens should take an Oath of Allegiance, but no longer. One AFP function is to provide police services in respect of the laws of the Commonwealth. (S8 (1) (b).) An Australian Federal Police officer is granted immunity from any requirements to register their motor cars, or obtain any licence whatsoever, in the performance of their duties.

No wonder the Commonwealth, is most uncomfortable when an Australian claims to be a Commonwealth Public Official, and up until now, has failed to extend the protection of the Australian Federal Police to persons claiming Statutory authorization to be a Commonwealth Public Official. Sections 13 and 15F Crimes Act 1914 extend to every Australian the right to be a Commonwealth Public Official provided they make that claim. There are first class and second class Australian citizens, while the Australian Federal Police is controlled by politicians.

By S 35 Australian Federal Police Act the Commissioner has the power to recognize any person as a consultant or independent contractor, for law enforcement purposes. This means anyone could be an Australian Federal Policeman