G'Day All. We as a Nation are supposed to be building a Country for the Children to inherit have a look through the Childrens eyes & see if you as a Child would like to inherit this world(I think not).
The Children from all cultures are abused in many formats from different backgrounds & cultures.While we as a nation keep treating problems these problems will continue the only way to fix a problem is to fix the cause.
We single out one section of the community while the whole country is suffering the same problems.We hear of the abuse of Indigenous Children but this abuse is through our entire society. We single out Bikers while what we acuse them of is through the entire society. We single out extreme Islamic beliefs while these extremes are through all religions.
We talk of sex as if it is love but sex is only the ultimate enhancement of love between a male & female for the act of reproduction as they have reached the point of where they find thier love of each other compels them to share a Child to display that love for each other.
While ever we as a people keep making knee jerk laws to cater for minority groups then we will continue with prejudice & discrimination. I speak not from the side that I think I am right but from the side of the knowledge of wrong. I wouldn't have the faintest what is right but I sure know what is wrong I have a record as long as your arm to prove I know what is wrong.There is two opposites of right & they are wrong & left & if something isn't right & it isn't wrong then it may be better left alone. Something by an unknown author "Love IS. Love requires no making nor creating, Love requires only the giving. Love requires no reward for that giving only the sharing. Love does not seek its own only its opposite as Love has no need for itself as it already IS.
Thanks for your time .Dave

Dear Dave,

Thank You for this thread.

I agree with you that love is so important.
If we could only remove from our minds the
tendency to judge, the tendency to blame.

The vast majority of
us are descendants of immigrants, yet we often
act as though today's immigrants don't deserve
what we do, that we need to have something to
protect us from their encroachment. It seems
paradoxical that we brag about our ancestry, yet
condemn someone trying to do the same thing today.

Of course there are immigrants who abuse our system,
just as there are people who are born here who abuse
our system. We have a tendency to moralize, to say
endless things about people and other nations about
how they should clean up their houses.

However, we need to clean up ours.
The days are long gone when we had
the moral authority to preach to others.
As you point out - we need to regain the ground, do
a moral inventory, do the work on ourselves that
we still need to do. That commitment must include our
capacity to love each other as human beings, to remember
that we are all linked on this planet -
and we can no longer take this world for granted.

I believe what is destroying our nation is the level of welfare given rather than the level of work opportunities that could be created by the same welfare. Make people take ownership of our community and its development, its laws and values.

I live next to a house of mixed 16 - 19 year old teenagers living away from home doing years 11 and 12 at school receiving mximum students allowances and benifits and their unemployed mates who frequenting this house being drunk out of their minds at weekends and disturbing the close townhouse neighbourhood. They will not act responsibly in community, nor will their unsupervised path lead to self sufficiency and social contribution.

Love? Oh kill me.

When talking about child abuse then equating this with bikers being hassled? Maybe not, I may have just read it all as one.

What isn’t right isn’t also wrong… maybe just a little bit wrong? But you know what is wrong and don’t think there is an opposite… how about when you do something right? Is it right or just not wrong? These words need removing from the English dictionary?

Sex as love, you’d have to ask the whores I guess as I think, like many, they do not do participate as an expression of love…probably not from any desire to reproduce either.

You got it out, I liked it, made no sense but definitely had a feeling of you lifting some weight Dave.

Let me guess, you are a member of Notorious?

Philo, my sympathy. See if Dave will send the boys round.

What would create jobs from welfare?

G'Day All, Thanks to Foxy for your comments,to Philo read the article again if you have one end of a piece string there must be an opposite end or else that piece of string isn't there at all. To every action there is an equal & opposite reaction even if you are unable to see it.Look at the theory of Relativity everything is relavant to the next, To The Pied Piper no I am not a member of Notorious or any other group & I wouldn't be sending any boys around. I used the Bikers as only an example where the States are trying to blame the bikers for all the crime but what they are blaming bikers for is all through society. The bikers are no different to the rest of society except they don't accept Child Abusers like so many other areas do. There are many good men & women that are bikers & many of them do a darn good job out there. Remember Bikers are only "supposed" to be connected to organised crime then clean up all organised crime & leave the Bikers alone until you do.Thanks again for your time. Dave

Dave hon… bikers do abuse and neglect their kids, I’ve had foster children who have had parents in gangs. Bikers sell drugs/stolen goods and some of them aren’t so organized – sometimes they are the organized crime with no supposing.

They bully and, for example; they don’t allow tattoo shops to open without their sponsorship, will burn an unsponsored persons shop to the ground. Their Xmas toy runs etc do not fool anybody. Their turf wars are as damaging as any little gangs out there.

Admittedly if they get their hands on a known or suspected pedophile they beat the crap out of them but then most people would. Difference is they like to fight.

Or are you talking about the weekend biker couple who own some bikes and enjoy their machines and do no harm and are not affiliated with your average leather clad, dirty jeans, can’t be alone biker “Club”?

I thought the theory of relativity was about how another universe could fit on the head of a pin. Or was it the one where if you are walking on a moving train and how relative is that to your immediate vicinity. I am sure someone will step in and help me out there.

I think maybe the law of motion is what the reaction one is. Don't quote me though, I’ll have to go look it up.