Benck

‘Antiseptic is just one of many men who seem to be very embittered because of their [family court] experiences.’

Why assume these men’s divorce experience gave them their embittered attitude? It’s more likely the opposite. It’s these men’s embittered attitude that almost certainly created their particular kind of divorce experience. Embittered personalities almost always have unhappy marriages that end in traumatic divorces.

Antiseptic

It was not ‘group sex’. It was a ‘gang bang’ – a very different, and heavily imbalanced, power relationship. The fact that the media keeps referring to it as ‘group sex’ says volumes about the big lie we’ve been sold on women’s ‘equality’.

Foxy, thanks for keeping concentrated on the topic amid the swarms of flies.

My question was not to do with all the other non-sporting organisations, such as Leagues Clubs, that cater to a wide and varied clientele and who may well benefir from the presence of women on their boards. Nor was it to do with local sport-based businesses. It was specifically to do with the male sport of Rugby League and to some extent Rugby Union, although that has a different social dynamic behind it, with most players coming from private-school backgrounds rather than the working-class background of most League players.

The Netball club you mentioned is a mixed club, as is the judo club, while at my daughter's school, the "girls'" computer group is coordinated and run by a female teacher, as is the computer club at my boy's primary school.

What of the exclusively female team sports? Does the Australian Women's netball team have a male coach, male CEO, male trainers and "counsellors"? Do local women's netball teams have men running the show? If they don't, should they?

Foxy:"Gender is beginning not to matter so much any more - rather
the emphasis is being placed on other individual qualities."

When will Zonta start accepting men as members? As you correctly point out, there are few "men only" clubs any more, since the Sex Discrimination Act has forced them to accept women, yet the same Act does not force women-only clubs to accept men. Should it? If not, why not?

I have skimmed the link you provided and I'll try to read it more thouroughly, but my first impression is that it's a dated puff-piece.

I note that noone, apart from Foxy, has tried to mount a rational argument against my statement. Surely, it should be easy for you to do if I'm so wrong?

Nah, just keep pretending I'm a poof, or a wife-basher, or otherwise tainted - it's so much easier than thinking, isn't it?

“Men are well known for continually stretching targets but watermelons are definitely out of scope. That and housekeeping.”

Hey Seeker, Wish there was a man here right now, there is a spider, a great big Aussie one – these are the only times I miss NZ.

Anti I didn’t think you believed what you first wrote about suspicions of a feminist agenda to get women in the NRL. But you must have predicted the different tangents we’d all go off on. From feminist plot I lost track, you now want to discuss who the dominant gender is as CEO’s in all sports in Australia?

I imagine men want those roles in the NRL, men that could even maybe do better elsewhere but want to be closer to what they love.

Could anyone suggest a male plot to reduce the number of women in DoCS? I think the reason management applied there isn’t the reason they stay now.

Whistler can you explain please what you are talking about with the legislation thing? Or refer me to a link or something? If it is like what Peter has explained then I need a simpler version.

C-Flower

Re: Passing the watermelon

Apologies, I forgot to add after being constipated for nine months.

A-septic

Your hatred is consuming you. Get some help, please.

In the past there was little help for estranged and divorced men, however that is no longer true, while more is needed there is help available, but it is up to you whether you access it or not.

Try:

http://www.menandfamily.org.au/programs.htm

This website links to a variety of organisations.

Foxy

‘Gender is beginning not to matter so much any more - rather
the emphasis is being placed on other individual qualities.’

With all due respect, this attitude is well-meaning but also self-defeating and unhelpful. Gender is still very important, and will continue to be so for a long time to come. At most, women’s increasing presence in areas previously dominated by men simply makes them less anomalous and is gradually changing the boundaries of people’s comfort zones.

This is definitely a good thing, but it’s not, and can never pass for, equality. Despite what most anti-feminist rhetoric maintains, feminism is not subordinate to humanism. It’s a completely different political arena, with its own rules of the game.

"The Australian Womens Rugby League was formed in 1993 by Ian Davies, who coached the local North Sydney womens team. Several regions played organised competitions throughout the East Coast of Australia".

http://www.sportingpulse.com/assoc_page.cgi?c=7-2131-0-0-0&sID=29161

it's one thing to be suffering
a psychotic illness
quite another altogether
to be giving comfort to a declared enemy
with a stream of misogynist posts
available for perusal
on Afghanistan online.