Actually Max, the entire point of me commenting on your posts on that topic, was that YOU were defining the topic by "race". YOU were person who mentioned "aboriginal" and "whites", and YOU were the person who tried to pit one against the other claiming that the apology to aboriginal people should have been enough and that it covered the "forgotten Australians", who include my deceased wife who was a child migrant. My wife was not of aboriginal descent, obviously, and the aboriginal apology by Mr Rudd did not apply to her or her situation.

The aboriginal apology WAS race specific. It applied to aboriginal people. The "Forgotten Australians" topic is NOT race specific. It applies to people of ANY race.

I told you the topic was "not race specific". The "Forgotten Australians" encompass ALL, yes ALL races. The issue is NOT, NOT, NOT about "race".

And because I pointed this out to you, you said of me the following:

"You're betraying your underlying racism and shame us all thereby, even your're (sic) nom de plume is a Freudian slip surely"

"Like all closet racists"

"Typical of the closed-mind approach of racists"

"Your racist outlook"

So, according to Max I'm a horrid, evil "racist" because I specifically told him that race is NOT an issue. Go figure!

By the way Max, you may, or may "not", be interested in knowing that my wife and I, in conjunction with local aboriginal elders, raised two orphaned aboriginal girls in the 60's/early 70's on our properties in outback Australia, in the Broken Hill area.

Onya mate, it is relevant, and I applaud you.
But I'm still confused by you focusing on white kids, separating it from the "apology" to the stolen generation, and then claiming it wasn't race related?
I include ALL kids, and you claim I'm making it a race question?
Figure that one out?
Stick around, gather ye wisdom, keep trying to make your point, dispute me or anyone else, you'll find it worthwhile, and I and others will be grateful for your input.
You have my respect, even though we may seem to disagree on some things, though I'm not entirely sure we do. Time will tell.

Max, I never for one second "focused on white kids". I never once mentioned a child's specific race. My point right from the beginning was that ALL kids are included, regardless of race, in the "Forgotten Australians" saga.

I think there's been a huge misunderstanding between us, and this is one reason why I've come to not like discussion forums very much. It just takes too much time to make things perfectly clear. And I have many other things to do. I wish you well, and apologise if what I've written within the other topic has offended you.

Hiya Master,

Welcome. I'm not a regular here either really; I come here mostly when I should be doing something else:) - but I like being here and have visited on and off for quite a long time now :) I read more than I post; and the point I want to make now is that there are others reading your posts - it's not all just about the posters who are oppositional.

I enjoyed your posts very much - the clarity, wisdom an kindness. I read your posts over on the other board too; I understood what you were saying and agree with you.

There are some I am always keen to read - SJF; CJ Morgan; Fractelle, Romany and several others - Sancho lately (I *must* try hard not to call Sancho Pancho - lol I used to know a dachshound named Pancho you see; apologies to Sancho).

As bizarre as it may be I like reading Antiseptic's posts in a way - responding to them (when I have time) is like revising Feminism 101.
His posts renew my sense of purpose. However, I find him a tragic figure and I often feel very sad for his young daughter and son.

Anyway thank you for your posts. I hope you do get 'hooked' - it would be great to have another nice bloke around.

No offence taken. I ask you as one person to another, stick around, I think you have much to contribute.

Master - add me to those who welcome you to OLO. I don't blame you for being put off by some of the stuff that's posted here, but I've found that this is one of the most interesting Australian internet forums, in part because there's a pretty diverse range of opinion here. I hope you come back again.

Antiwomen - something else bothered me about your latest feminist conspiracy delusion, and now it's come back. On the same day as your 'violent women' story, this one was also published:

<< FORMER NRL star Greg Bird has been sentenced to 16 months jail for glassing his girlfriend in the face. >>

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25670133-601,00.html

It didn't seem to get much attention either (notably from you). Was this part of the feminist journalist conspiracy too?

Still no names of former high level NRL players who are currently corporate high flyers?