It is patently clear that the reason the Liberals have enjoyed the success of the last 10 yrs is because Labor is floundering and failing so dismally.

Its not that Liberals have been such great economic managers, it is well known that Keating stabilised the health of the economy off the back of the recession.

If you can define success by capitalising on the woes and misfortunes of Labor, then yes, Liberal have been a success.

I dont see Liberal as having delivered sound ethical and moral government to Australains.
They have prospered at the expense of Australians and infighting in the Labor Party.

No mystery here. I dont believe a Party should be allowed to claim success that is not based on their good Government , but rather by the failure of the Opposition.

Success by default if you like.

Today Kevin Rudd and Julia Gilliard took over the Labor leadership.

Now maybe with a hope and a prayer , us , the die hard Labor voters can see a glimmer of hope for the return of Labor to the political landscape .

Unfortunately for that too happen, a very decent man was toppled and I was very saddened by that..on that same morning his brother died.Kim Beazley is a great bloke in anyones estimation.

So now perhaps we may see Labor creating a little success of their own.

God willing.

With it being "well known" that Keating produced the economic goods, and that the Coalition is just benefitting from his wonderful work, it's surprising that Keating was kicked out when he was!

Well arent we in for trouble
Rudd will be bringing the church to government and there goes the rights of people.

There is only one set of rules he is interested in the bible and if you dont meet those rules well then you dont have a hope.
Its good to see labor will now take us down the same path as those countrys that have religion in government.
Australia the new Iraq

Your choice as an individual will be gone.

Australian peoples Party
email:swulrich@bigpond.net.au

Tapp..it is early days here..but I get the feeling that Rudd may abstain from letting his religiuos veiws from colouring his decision making...We must remember that the Leader does not work in isolation, he answers to his party.

I think as Rudd has a very ordinary background he will be grounded for the most part in decision making.

As long as the IR laws go..thats the main thing.

Leigh...what can I say except have a nice day.

Tapp - John Howard, Kim Beazley, Peter Costello, Tony Abbott are known church goers.

John Howard has given the Catholic Church $80 million to build a spire on St Mary's Church in Sydney. I am not a Catholic - I am seriously offended.

The Liberal federal government provides more funding for private schools in direct grants than to government schools. If you want to chose not to send your child to the state system you should pay the full cost. All over the country K12 schools are springing up with limited resources and unfortunately worse year 12 results than the government schools. I am not a churchgoer and I object to my taxes being spent on religious indoctrination and half-baked education.

As Minister for Health, Tony Abbott has tried to control women's sexual behaviour in line with the pope's teachings. He wants to stop abortion, punish potentially promiscuous school girls by denying access to Gardasil. allow chronically ill patients to suffer by stamping out stem cell research. I am not a catholic or even a psuedo-catholic and I am deeply offended.

Peter Costello and John Howard have been seen at Hillsong - a happy clappy american style evangical church who believe that poor people are bad. God help the social service recipients who have to rely on them for charity. I am even more frightened.

Beazley's church going antics haven't reached my ears.

Nick Minchins religious zealotry in selling off the farm in the face of strong evidence that some things work more efficiently as government monopolies rather than for profit operations. he is a dangerous dill.

The consistent failure of the federal government to apply effective regulation over insurance, superannuation, competition - all the areas where large corporations are leading the government round by the b*lls.

So Tapp - how could Rudd possibly be worse?